[10:02]  You: hi, folks
[10:02]  Garvie Garzo: hi
[10:02]  Lydia Milner: Hi Everyone :)
[10:02]  Alisa Cleanslate: Hi
[10:02]  You: Bean will be here shortly - she's just finishing a meeting
[10:02]  Dancers Yao: /hi
[10:03]  Fountain Entrance Proximity Sensor: Welcome back to The Tech, Stephe Roux! Check out some of the cool new exhibits in Parkside Exhibit Workshop if you get the chance...
[10:03]  Garvie Garzo: cool
[10:03]  Dancers Yao: if I can
[10:04]  You: we now have four great exhibits for UcanTu
[10:04]  Garvie Garzo: excellent
[10:04]  Garvie Garzo: that was fast
[10:04]  You: thanks to Garvie, Marie and Qion
[10:04]  Garvie Garzo: i;m about to addthe fifth :)
[10:04]  You: cool!
[10:05]  You: Garvie, any word from your scripting wizard about a rezzer?
[10:06]  Garvie Garzo: they sound great
[10:06]  Garvie Garzo: i love the kick start idea
[10:06]  Garvie Garzo: sorry, no i can't find him
[10:06]  Lydia Milner: thanks :)
[10:06]  Garvie Garzo: i can probably get one.. just not sure how much
[10:06]  You: no pb, Garvie
[10:07]  Garvie Garzo: but because this is a modify, it shouldn't be much
[10:07]  Garvie Garzo: that said, my paypal is always delayed.. so i'm stalling until i am SL wealthy again
[10:07]  Garvie Garzo: give me a deadline and i'll get someone
[10:07]  Garvie Garzo: scripters are always looking for a fast buck
[10:08]  Garvie Garzo: i did drop a notecardon beeks.. so i am justwaiting for him to log in and get it
[10:08]  You: well, I was hoping we might have a rezzer shootout tomorrow, but maybe that's optimistic
[10:09]  Garvie Garzo: no, that might work
[10:10]  You: what we're talking about is that we hope to move most of the exhibits out of our Parkside workshop by the end of this week
[10:10]  You: to make room for UcanTu
[10:11]  You: and here's ........ Sahkini!
[10:11]  Shakini Parnass is Online
[10:11]  You: Shakini
[10:11]  Lorenza Rokocoko: Hi everyone
[10:11]  Shakini Parnass: hi everyne - sorry i'm late
[10:11]  You: Hi, Lorenza
[10:12]  Lorenza Rokocoko: hey Stephe!
[10:12]  Lydia Milner: Stephe, I am taling with someone about the rezzer, can you please remind me what the problem is? Does it work if the item is full perms ?
[10:13]  Shakini Parnass: i'm really excited that there are 4 projects already -- you rock!!
[10:13]  Garvie Garzo: no, the problem is the detectkey call is to the owner
[10:13]  Garvie Garzo: this hasto be for ANY avatar
[10:14]  Garvie Garzo: thx
[10:14]  Shakini Parnass: so a few of you have posted really great ideas
[10:14]  Shakini Parnass: we are excited that we are all having similar thoughts about directions these experiences might go in
[10:15]  Shakini Parnass: the press release didn't actually get sent out last week
[10:15]  Shakini Parnass: but we're hoping that it will go out this week
[10:15]  Lydia Milner: oh ogood
[10:15]  Shakini Parnass: which will hopefully mean more people to join in
[10:15]  Lorenza Rokocoko: great!
[10:16]  Shakini Parnass: do you guys want to brainstorm a little on more ideas for the new projects?
[10:16]  Lydia Milner: yes, shakini that sounds good
[10:17]  Lydia Milner: I havent typed much description in mine, I was thinking of doing a sketch
[10:17]  Shakini Parnass: let's start with yours
[10:17]  Shakini Parnass: do you want to tell people about what you're thinking?
[10:17]  Lydia Milner: ok, i was thinking of a well and a small hill as the stage set,
[10:17]  Lydia Milner: i always think of it as a stage set :)
[10:18]  Garvie Garzo: yes, i only have a name for my next one.. i can SEE it, but not quite plan it yet
[10:18]  Lydia Milner: and then you walk up to the kickstart and start pupminh
[10:18]  Lydia Milner: neon lights blue are laid between fake furrows
[10:18]  Lydia Milner: which light up like water moving along
[10:18]  Lydia Milner: then plants pop up or light up, not sure which,
[10:19]  Garvie Garzo: i like pop up
[10:19]  Garvie Garzo: you coulkd trigger an emitteri
[10:19]  Lydia Milner: yeash, me too, like targets at a shooting range
[10:19]  Garvie Garzo: lol
[10:19]  Shakini Parnass: you also mentioned that people's faces might pop up
[10:19]  Garvie Garzo: i was thinking like a crop sprouting
[10:19]  Shakini Parnass: which i love!
[10:19]  Shakini Parnass: the idea of conveying how many people are fed by your efforts pumping is cool
[10:19]  Lydia Milner: the 'walls' pf the exhibt has persepx panels which as you pump more light up first a couple#then their family
[10:19]  Garvie Garzo: yes
[10:20]  Garvie Garzo: also it's nice to have goals..
[10:20]  Garvie Garzo: keep pumping to see the whole shebang
[10:20]  Lydia Milner: sorry, had to put another pingu on you tube - good job we dont do voice!
[10:20]  Lydia Milner: ok, from family go to village
[10:20]  Lydia Milner: with a vid of a real farmer in front of you so you can pump along with him
[10:20]  Lorenza Rokocoko: maybe the exhibit will give some facts "after and before" the pump is used in RL
[10:21]  Lydia Milner: and some text like the transparant speaker prompts with the stats for how much water, how long to pump etc,
[10:21]  Shakini Parnass: yes, we're actually trying to work out a format now for what will be comon to all the exhibits in RL
[10:21]  Lydia Milner: and I wanted the wall behind the cid guy to be a map of the world which lights up the places where this is used, big lights = lots of ppl
[10:21]  Shakini Parnass: one other thing that is very powerful about the kickstart is that $75
[10:22]  Shakini Parnass: majorly changes people's lives from this investment
[10:22]  Lydia Milner: yes, i want to get the economical side of it more visible
[10:22]  Lydia Milner: i have been reading the webpage today
[10:23]  Shakini Parnass: i'm having trouble getting on the site
[10:23]  Lydia Milner: oh i got it earlier, v intersting
[10:23]  Garvie Garzo: what's the format for the RL exhibits?
[10:24]  Lydia Milner: brb
[10:24]  Shakini Parnass: we were just talking about that
[10:24]  Shakini Parnass: it looks like each area is going to be a cluster
[10:24]  Shakini Parnass: with (or without) an artifact
[10:25]  Lydia Milner: back
[10:25]  Shakini Parnass: video monitor showing relevant info
[10:25]  Shakini Parnass: short text panels
[10:25]  Shakini Parnass: a globe mapping data about the issue
[10:25]  Lydia Milner: that soudns good
[10:25]  Shakini Parnass: we're really inspired by ingo gunther's world processor.org project
[10:25]  Lydia Milner: whats the sq foot/m?
[10:25]  Garvie Garzo: are you worried that that wil be reoetitive?
[10:25]  Shakini Parnass: that has been mapping really complex data onto globes for 25 years
[10:26]  Garvie Garzo: eePetitive
[10:26]  Shakini Parnass: he's got an incredible sense for doing this
[10:26]  Garvie Garzo: omg
[10:26]  Shakini Parnass: check out worldprocessor.org to get an idea
[10:26]  Shakini Parnass: there are over 300 globes there
[10:26]  Shakini Parnass: the exhibit is approximately 3000 square feet
[10:27]  Shakini Parnass: are we worried that what will be repetitive?
[10:27]  Garvie Garzo: yes
[10:27]  You: nearly 300 m sq
[10:27]  Garvie Garzo: i decided to give up on the word lol
[10:27]  Lorenza Rokocoko: And other important fact is that the museum is trying to build a scenario that could look like any place in the world, but also it will have local issues
[10:27]  You: lol
[10:28]  Lydia Milner: yes, that must be tricky, a generic place
[10:28]  Shakini Parnass: some of these will also have a tech tag experience associated with them as well
[10:29]  Garvie Garzo: i dunno, i think that ifthe response is dtrong enough message wise, you'kll transcent locality pretty automatically
[10:29]  Lydia Milner: I do love that tech tag thing,a briliant idea
[10:29]  Shakini Parnass: visitors scan their tech tag and then are able to access info at home
[10:29]  Garvie Garzo: what's the tech tag?
[10:29]  Garvie Garzo: ah
[10:29]  Shakini Parnass: the tech tag is essentially a barcode that is on visitor's museum tix
[10:29]  Lydia Milner: those globes are gorgeous
[10:30]  Lorenza Rokocoko: the Tech tag is a device that can save information of your visit in a bar code
[10:30]  Shakini Parnass: one way they are used now for example
[10:30]  Lorenza Rokocoko: and you can access later in a computer
[10:30]  Shakini Parnass: is visitors can do a 3D scan of their head
[10:30]  Shakini Parnass: manipulate the data and then access it from home on our website
[10:30]  Lorenza Rokocoko: saves information, photos, etc...
[10:30]  Lydia Milner: oh cooll will that be htere when we get there ? :)
[10:30]  Shakini Parnass: we can use the tech tags to tie in more information
[10:31]  You: visitors can go to the Tech.org website, enter their TechTag # and see their personal data/results
[10:31]  Lorenza Rokocoko: people could save the websites of the institutions and review them later
[10:31]  Shakini Parnass: yes, they are already throughout the museum
[10:31]  Garvie Garzo: cool
[10:31]  Garvie Garzo: do people use them? is therea way to tell?
[10:31]  Shakini Parnass: i just took a few photos of the readers yesterday and could email you a photo if you want to see what they look like
[10:32]  Garvie Garzo: yes
[10:32]  Shakini Parnass: will do
[10:32]  Garvie Garzo: might be useful texture upload
[10:32]  Shakini Parnass: good point
[10:33]  Shakini Parnass: so one other thing i liked was the idea of blue lights (leds?) indicating water
[10:33]  Lydia Milner: oh good, I remmeber Nina said a while ago NO WATER! in RL lol
[10:33]  Garvie Garzo: yes
[10:33]  Garvie Garzo: and NO fire
[10:33]  Lydia Milner: blue led lights are easy to come by, can start thin and get thivcker etc
[10:33]  Shakini Parnass: we just have to figure out how to contain it!
[10:34]  Shakini Parnass: we were also thinking about having a closed system with real water
[10:34]  Shakini Parnass: i.e. a clear cylinder with water
[10:34]  Lydia Milner: but i did think a closed perspec cylcinder SEALED that contained enought water to feed e.g. one family for a mth or whatever is a reasonble qty, at the side would be a good indication for ppl as I for sure would have no idea how much water was needed ,and be able to relate to that qty
[10:35]  Lydia Milner: wow spooky!
[10:35]  Lydia Milner: lol
[10:35]  Garvie Garzo: you could also do it just with a photo..
[10:35]  Garvie Garzo: or piles of 1 gallon jugs
[10:35]  Lydia Milner: and i liek the vid od the real farmer pumping as ppl may get in sync with him or try to out pump him etc
[10:35]  Shakini Parnass: thats definitely the challenge - but maybe relating it to the popping plants would be a way to do that
[10:36]  Shakini Parnass: i hear that kids will probably last about a minute max
[10:36]  Shakini Parnass: so how much can they grow in a minute?
[10:36]  You: the RL museum has some exhibits that use water already
[10:36]  Lydia Milner: and when you get off the pump you could get a messg waying that you pumped enough water for 1/4 a stalk of corn or whatever, or on the tech tags, so that ppl can realise just how much work it is :)
[10:36]  Shakini Parnass: or enought to germinate the seed!
[10:36]  Lydia Milner: lol
[10:37]  Lydia Milner: i did think about two pumpers so e.g. guys could compete etc
[10:37]  Shakini Parnass: we did too
[10:37]  Lydia Milner: but that would take up more space adn maybe dilute othe point
[10:37]  Garvie Garzo: yes, that's a great idea
[10:37]  Shakini Parnass: one concern is that kids really will make it a competition
[10:37]  Lydia Milner: no pun intended there
[10:37]  Shakini Parnass: and may miss the point
[10:37]  Garvie Garzo: ah
[10:37]  Lydia Milner: gosh we are tlaking in stero here
[10:38]  Lydia Milner: you dont have a webcam in my house do you?
[10:38]  Shakini Parnass: there is a tricky balance between these being serious projects
[10:38]  Lydia Milner: :)
[10:38]  Lydia Milner: if so i may tidy up
[10:38]  Shakini Parnass: and being engaging
[10:38]  Shakini Parnass: and fun for kids
[10:38]  You: lol
[10:38]  Lydia Milner: yes, you dont want to make ppl leave feeling the weight of the worlld is on them
[10:38]  You: watch the diapers, Lydia
[10:38]  Lorenza Rokocoko: but it will be really interesting to know that your effort becomes in some benefit very real
[10:38]  Shakini Parnass: the other thing about having 2 of them
[10:38]  Lydia Milner: but neither do we weant real issues to be a big laugh
[10:39]  Shakini Parnass: is that there is a lot more real estate taken up
[10:39]  Lydia Milner: lol
[10:39]  Shakini Parnass: so garvie - tell us about your kiva.org ideas
[10:39]  Garvie Garzo: ok
[10:39]  Lydia Milner: yes
[10:39]  Garvie Garzo: well the ATM part is simple enough..
[10:40]  Garvie Garzo: it will link directly to the kiva website, where hopefully visitors will be compelled to lend
[10:40]  Garvie Garzo: if and when they do, the ATM will give them a gift bracelet modelled on one of Kiav's gift store items
[10:40]  Garvie Garzo: it's bright green and say 'lender'
[10:40]  Shakini Parnass: nice
[10:41]  Shakini Parnass: have you started modeling the kiosk?
[10:41]  Garvie Garzo: the booth decoration will likely be just mostly pictures ofborrowersand lendersr
[10:41]  Lydia Milner accepted your inventory offer.
[10:41]  Shakini Parnass: it would be great to tie this in with a general tech tag experience about micro-loans
[10:42]  Garvie Garzo: i was thinking of a rotating globe hovering overthe ATM that gives some visuals as to money instantly changing hands around the world
[10:42]  Shakini Parnass: in real time
[10:42]  Garvie Garzo: i do NOT want this to feel like charity or a donation..r
[10:42]  Garvie Garzo: it is a LOAN and needs to seem like regular online business transactions
[10:42]  Garvie Garzo: yes, i have a partially built kiosk
[10:43]  Garvie Garzo: i want a few styles
[10:43]  Shakini Parnass: i think that mentally there is a big distinction there for people of a loan v. donation even if they never ask to be paid back
[10:43]  Garvie Garzo: yes
[10:43]  Lorenza Rokocoko: another idea for this project is that the lenders don't need to give a lot of money, a little or a big amount makes the difference...
[10:44]  Garvie Garzo: also, it's part ofthe whole kiva message.. this is about giving people the tools to change their own livesd
[10:44]  Shakini Parnass: true
[10:44]  Garvie Garzo: i know 25 bucks is NOTHING
[10:44]  Shakini Parnass: speaking of which, we just found out that mohammed yunnus of grameen is going to be the winner of our global humanitarian award
[10:44]  Lorenza Rokocoko: but, for another person 25 is a lot...
[10:45]  Shakini Parnass: so we may have the opportunity to integrate him into video footage or an exhibit about microloans
[10:45]  Shakini Parnass: which isn't specific to kiva but the whole genre
[10:45]  Garvie Garzo: well, the beauty ofthe microfiancing is that they're pooled... so my 25 bucks might only be a tenth ofthe actual loan, it nevertheless realizes a financing scheme that a regular bank wouldn't touchu
[10:45]  Garvie Garzo: cool.. on the films
[10:46]  You: Mohammed Yunnus is Mister Microlending
[10:46]  Garvie Garzo: lol
[10:46]  Garvie Garzo: it;s smart
[10:46]  Garvie Garzo: there should be more peer to peer evrybthing
[10:47]  Shakini Parnass: i heard him do an interview where he talked about loaning street people $15 and they set up entire door-to-door sales from that
[10:47]  Lydia Milner: wow thats lovely
[10:47]  Lorenza Rokocoko: wow
[10:47]  Shakini Parnass: he said that their staff would visit them (on the street) and followup
[10:47]  Garvie Garzo: i mean this WASsupposed to turn into a global village that connects persons right?
[10:47]  Shakini Parnass: they always paid back the $15 and then came back to ask for a bigger loan
[10:47]  Shakini Parnass: he wasn't necessarily advocating that everyone become door to door salespeople
[10:48]  Shakini Parnass: but he said that they had helped a lot of people get off the street eventually through doing this
[10:48]  Shakini Parnass: imagine if we had something like that here with so many homeless people
[10:48]  Garvie Garzo: yes, we're finally starting a similarthing in toronto
[10:48]  Garvie Garzo: it's cheaperin the long run and it's the right thing to do
[10:48]  Shakini Parnass: absolutely!
[10:49]  Shakini Parnass: the other incredible thing is that they have a 98% payback rate
[10:49]  Garvie Garzo: it's fundamentally fcked up to ctiminalize poverty.. as tho poverty wasn'talready enough ofa wrong
[10:49]  Shakini Parnass: which is totally unheard of for banks in western countries
[10:49]  Lydia Milner: gosh tahts a fantastic %
[10:50]  Lorenza Rokocoko: and there is a commitment to pay back to somebody who believes in you, and your project. In the case of Kiva you can tell that the entrepreneurs have interesting projects
[10:50]  Garvie Garzo: yes, plus ifthey showed the iniative to contact a lender and write a proposal and so on, then they're motivated...
[10:51]  Dancers Yao: /we could sure use this type of program in Los Angeles
[10:51]  Garvie Garzo: and givingthem the cahnce to make good would only make people MOREmotivated
[10:51]  Lorenza Rokocoko: of course
[10:51]  Garvie Garzo: yes, LA is a disgarce
[10:51]  Shakini Parnass: qion ning -- please share your ideas about the freeplay radio project
[10:51]  Dancers Yao: yes it is
[10:52]  You: Qion?
[10:52]  Shakini Parnass: maybe she went away?
[10:52]  Garvie Garzo: hmmm
[10:53]  Lydia Milner: nice dress though
[10:53]  Shakini Parnass: lydia -- tell us about your other project isee my life
[10:53]  Garvie Garzo: lol
[10:53]  Lydia Milner: ok, i am not tottally in the zone with this one
[10:53]  Lydia Milner: i got hte idea then is slipped away a bit
[10:53]  Shakini Parnass: thats ok
[10:53]  Lydia Milner: i was thinking of how we tend not ot relate to the impact of poor vision
[10:53]  Lydia Milner: as we just get glasess or whatever
[10:54]  Lydia Milner: except for a colleaue at work who refuese to swear specs and poured boiling weater on her foot heehee
[10:54]  Shakini Parnass: its true that since glasses are so available, we don't think about the implications of not having them here
[10:54]  Shakini Parnass: ow!
[10:54]  Lydia Milner: anyway, i thought some oversized fake specs made to certain eye conditions attached to a booth
[10:54]  Lydia Milner: that you rest chin on plate, look through
[10:54]  Lydia Milner: put arms out (maybe in sleeves) iintp a box
[10:55]  Lydia Milner: where you try to do the tesk with the bad vision
[10:55]  Draxtor Despres is Offline
[10:55]  Shakini Parnass: this could give a new meaning to rose colored glasses
[10:55]  Lydia Milner: haha
[10:55]  Lydia Milner: bu thte actual things to do i am aliitle vague on
[10:55]  Garvie Garzo: tie yourshoes
[10:55]  Shakini Parnass: brush your teeth
[10:55]  Alisa Cleanslate: Nice idea, I live the experiential part.
[10:56]  Draxtor Despres is Online
[10:56]  Lydia Milner: i like the idea of night blindness, so trying to manuover a horse and cart down a pothill filled road for example
[10:56]  Garvie Garzo: pick sometnig up
[10:56]  Lydia Milner: coudl use magnets to move things
[10:56]  Garvie Garzo: read instructions on a bottle
[10:56]  Shakini Parnass: needlepoint
[10:56]  Lydia Milner: or pick the good plant and not the poisonous weed that lok ssimilar
[10:56]  Lorenza Rokocoko: threath and needle
[10:56]  Garvie Garzo: lol
[10:56]  Lydia Milner: yes, needlpoit is good
[10:56]  Lydia Milner: the perspsec box would nee dot be blacked out so you couldnt ppek in and cheat first :)
[10:57]  Shakini Parnass: you mean you wouldn't know what the task is?
[10:57]  Garvie Garzo: it'll behardyto do poor vision in sl
[10:57]  Shakini Parnass: i can barely see as it is...
[10:57]  Lydia Milner: no a little card like poick the fod not the poisonous prickly one, of two similar plants
[10:57]  Garvie Garzo: thecamera isway way better than rl.. andit'sclientside
[10:58]  Garvie Garzo: i needd a space bar
[10:58]  Lydia Milner: in ls i thought of fake specs to wear
[10:58]  Lydia Milner: but the visuals are doinr as textures,eg blurred
[10:58]  Lydia Milner: that was meant ot be in SL not ls :)
[10:58]  Garvie Garzo: yes, you'll need blurred photos etc
[10:59]  You: the way the spex work is they have two clear vinyl membranes
[10:59]  Lydia Milner: i try to start with the RL and then work on the SL
[10:59]  Garvie Garzo: makes sense
[10:59]  You: and water in between
[10:59]  Shakini Parnass: one thing we'll be able to do in RL is adjust the glass to finetune the vision to eah person's eyes
[10:59]  Lydia Milner: yes, that was the other thing i was thinking on but not got solid yet
[11:00]  You: so the more water you fill them with, the more powerful the glasses
[11:00]  Lydia Milner: was how to illustrate the vision improvement
[11:00]  You: so we could demo that
[11:00]  Shakini Parnass: big giant industrial knobs could be on the sides of the lenses to adjust the amount of water and shape of the lens
[11:00]  Lydia Milner: it hought maybe the specs are on a timer so you try to do the task quickly
[11:00]  Lydia Milner: as the vision improves until you CAN see
[11:00]  Garvie Garzo: cool
[11:00]  Shakini Parnass: i like that
[11:00]  Lydia Milner: hery that sounds cool :)
[11:00]  Lydia Milner: it seems all my ideas are vastly competitive lately :)
[11:01]  Lydia Milner: competing in the interactive tasks
[11:01]  Shakini Parnass: if there's only one pair of glasses, you're only competing against yourself
[11:01]  Shakini Parnass: or the clock
[11:01]  You: ;-)
[11:01]  Shakini Parnass: but that would really hit home your idea of the implications of poor vision
[11:01]  Lydia Milner: yes, or the clock, or how quicky your friend did it
[11:01]  Shakini Parnass: since its time-limited
[11:01]  Lydia Milner: as the glasses reset they can get timed out and have to start agian
[11:02]  Lydia Milner: which helps with ppl moving on to another exh anyway
[11:02]  Shakini Parnass: it could be competitive in the sense that you are able to keep track of the tasks and how fast each person was able to do them
[11:02]  Lydia Milner: on epair for each task, i thought maybe could fit in three tasks
[11:02]  Lydia Milner: tehn can try all or just one#
[11:02]  Lydia Milner: each diff vision problem
[11:02]  Lydia Milner: would be freaky to move form longsighted to shortsighted :)
[11:03]  Shakini Parnass: double vision
[11:03]  Shakini Parnass: i gues color blindness wouldn't necesarily fit into this idea
[11:04]  Shakini Parnass: thats always an issue dealing with color though
[11:04]  Lydia Milner: yes, ooh double vision is good
[11:04]  Shakini Parnass: did someone already say night vision?
[11:04]  Lydia Milner: can you light the fire without buring yourself with double cision?
[11:04]  Lydia Milner: yes me
[11:05]  Shakini Parnass: it would be cool to have to do something in the dark
[11:05]  Lorenza Rokocoko: people with color blindness do not necesarily use glasses
[11:05]  Shakini Parnass: sorry, we had a visitor on this end
[11:05]  Garvie Garzo: no, i don't think itcan be corrected with glasses
[11:05]  Shakini Parnass: thats true -- i don't think it can be corrected at all, can it?
[11:06]  Lydia Milner: no i tihnks its a perm thing color
[11:06]  Garvie Garzo: no, it's located in the brain, sot the eyes usually
[11:06]  Lorenza Rokocoko: nope
[11:06]  Lydia Milner: yes, i liek the idea of peering into a dark box for the night vision,
[11:06]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky is Online
[11:07]  Shakini Parnass: lorenza - what happened?
[11:07]  Shakini Parnass: hey qion ning -- are you back?
[11:08]  Shakini Parnass: do you want to tell us a little about your idea for freeplay?
[11:08]  Garvie Garzo: hmmm
[11:08]  Lorenza Rokocoko: color blindness is a lack of photo sensitive cells in your retina
[11:08]  Garvie Garzo: she didn't say hi when i first arrived
[11:08]  Lydia Milner: oh wow, id dnt know that
[11:08]  Garvie Garzo: might be crashing.. ordoing something else
[11:08]  Shakini Parnass: does that mean she's not really here?
[11:08]  Lorenza Rokocoko: I don't know the name in English, but are the cones and the "bastones"
[11:08]  Lydia Milner: noi just looked back, hello to me neither
[11:09]  Lydia Milner: but she did want tocome she im'd me y/day
[11:09]  Garvie Garzo: just cones for us
[11:09]  Lydia Milner: odd
[11:09]  Shakini Parnass: i thought your avatar goes to sleep, its been a long time
[11:09]  You: its actually a mutation in the visual pigments
[11:09]  Garvie Garzo: not ifyou're active
[11:09]  Garvie Garzo: but sometimes you can't chat or move.. massive lag
[11:09]  You: roda and cones
[11:09]  Shakini Parnass: so alisa and dancers -- how are you doing??
[11:09]  Lorenza Rokocoko: cones are for black and white, and roda for color, three colors acctually
[11:10]  You: hu=i, sunflower
[11:10]  Garvie Garzo: no, cones are color rods are motion and not color
[11:10]  Dancers Yao: /okay thanks....has anyone connected the witness program with the micro loans?
[11:10]  Shakini Parnass: i don't know
[11:10]  sunflower Aichi: hello
[11:10]  Garvie Garzo: what do you mean connected?
[11:10]  Alisa Cleanslate: Fine, just absorbing the ideas. I know about water harvesting in India and wonder if something about that would fit in.
[11:11]  Shakini Parnass: a number of the tech awards projects are on the kiva.org site
[11:11]  Shakini Parnass: that may already be there
[11:11]  Alisa Cleanslate: i.e. saving the rain water that comes off the roof of buildings.
[11:11]  Dancers Yao: /the micro loans might help some of the civil right issues.
[11:11]  Shakini Parnass: definitely
[11:12]  sunflower Aichi: hello
[11:12]  Shakini Parnass: alisa - the project that would tie in with is the fogquest
[11:12]  Shakini Parnass: they do water harvesting in arid regions using a large screen mesh
[11:12]  Shakini Parnass: very low tech and very effective
[11:12]  Garvie Garzo: hi sunflower
[11:12]  Garvie Garzo: we;re not ignoring you.. just in the middle of conversation :)
[11:12]  Shakini Parnass: hi sunflower!
[11:13]  Alisa Cleanslate: but I haven't thought about an exhibit at all. Just brainstorming.
[11:13]  sunflower Aichi: i represent the webnet museum
[11:13]  Shakini Parnass: we're brainstorming ideas for the Ucantu exhibit at the tech virtual
[11:13]  Shakini Parnass: welcome
[11:13]  Lorenza Rokocoko: welcome
[11:14]  Shakini Parnass: thats cool -- we were thinking about getting a fog machine
[11:14]  Garvie Garzo: i have several for SL :)
[11:14]  Shakini Parnass: and a small piece of mesh to see if we could simulate the conditions in a small area
[11:14]  Garvie Garzo: now, THAST is badfor somputers
[11:14]  Shakini Parnass: true!
[11:15]  Shakini Parnass: i should have said, small "closed" area
[11:15]  Garvie Garzo accepted your inventory offer.
[11:15]  Alisa Cleanslate: A small building with a "local rainstorm". Try to catch the water in a barel and see how well you do.
[11:15]  Lorenza Rokocoko: I have to go, I'll be visiting the projects' wikis, thank you all!
[11:16]  Shakini Parnass: do you ahve any thoughts about experiences people could have related to water harvesting?
[11:16]  Garvie Garzo: alisa check yourIM
[11:16]  Lydia Milner: Thanks Lorenza, Bye :)
[11:16]  Garvie Garzo: i url-ed you the projects
[11:16]  Shakini Parnass: thanks lorenza - hasta!
[11:16]  Lorenza Rokocoko: hasta pronto!
[11:16]  Shakini Parnass: thanks for reminding me about that - sunflower & alisa do you need an intro card with info about the project?
[11:17]  Alisa Cleanslate: Yes, please.
[11:17]  sunflower Aichi: yes
[11:17]  sunflower Aichi: i'm new here
[11:18]  sunflower Aichi: i need some information plz
[11:18]  Garvie Garzo: i sent you the URL to the projects page.. check your IM sunflower
[11:18]  Shakini Parnass: thanks garvie
[11:19]  sunflower Aichi: ok
[11:19]  sunflower Aichi: ty
[11:19]  Garvie Garzo: i'm getting good with that copy function
[11:19]  Shakini Parnass: i'm still a little slow on the uptake!
[11:19]  You: I am putting the transcript of thiese meeting on the Website
[11:19]  sunflower Aichi: the note card is empty!!
[11:19]  You: http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/ucantu/ucantu-meeting-transcripts
[11:19]  Garvie Garzo: in case you don't know how, you use copy like regular in the address field, but to PASTE in SL u hit ctrl V
[11:20]  Shakini Parnass: thx
[11:20]  Shakini Parnass: so sunflower & alisa, we
[11:20]  Shakini Parnass: meet here each tuesday morning at 10
[11:20]  Shakini Parnass: and are bouncing around ideas right now
[11:20]  sunflower Aichi: i want to know what kind of artists you want to be here?
[11:20]  Shakini Parnass: based on the projects that people are starting for the ucantu tech virtual exhibit
[11:20]  Garvie Garzo: any kind ofartist
[11:20]  Shakini Parnass: we're open to any kind of artists, exhibit designers, musicians, programmers, etc.
[11:20]  Garvie Garzo: but raelly we make exhibits
[11:21]  Shakini Parnass: we
[11:21]  Garvie Garzo: and most people aren't really artist
[11:21]  sunflower Aichi: bcz i'm an artist
[11:21]  Alisa Cleanslate: I'm an animator.
[11:21]  Garvie Garzo: excellent
[11:21]  Shakini Parnass: we're prototyping ideas from RL in SL to go back into a RL exhibit
[11:21]  sunflower Aichi: i represent another artist's work
[11:21]  Garvie Garzo: i maty need an animator for the next one
[11:21]  Shakini Parnass: what type of work?
[11:21]  Alisa Cleanslate: cool
[11:22]  sunflower Aichi: he has a painel here
[11:22]  Garvie Garzo: nicely said shakini..
[11:22]  Garvie Garzo: i never thought of it that way
[11:22]  Shakini Parnass: actually were prototyping ideas based on real projects
[11:22]  sunflower Aichi: but me not!!!
[11:22]  Garvie Garzo: ?
[11:22]  Alisa Cleanslate: Oh
[11:22]  Alisa Cleanslate: sorry, didn't know that.
[11:22]  Shakini Parnass: those real projects are posted on thetechvirtual.org website
[11:23]  Shakini Parnass: just click on projects - ucantu
[11:23]  Shakini Parnass: ucantu stands for "you can too"
[11:23]  Garvie Garzo: hmmm
[11:23]  Garvie Garzo: wtf
[11:23]  Shakini Parnass: since we're hoping that these will tie in with the "inspire the innovator in everyone" tagline of the museum
[11:23]  Shakini Parnass: last saturday was one of the tech's signature events
[11:24]  Shakini Parnass: the tech challenge - "water works"
[11:24]  Garvie Garzo: do tell
[11:24]  Shakini Parnass: they had over 200 teams of students
[11:24]  You: ~1000 kids
[11:24]  Shakini Parnass: from elementary, middle and highschools all over the bay area and beyond
[11:24]  Garvie Garzo: cool
[11:24]  Shakini Parnass: the challenge was to provide water to a village w/o electricity
[11:24]  Shakini Parnass: they had to come up with a way to deliver water UPHILL
[11:25]  Garvie Garzo: lol was it downhill?
[11:25]  Shakini Parnass: from a simulated "waterfall"
[11:25]  You: use the power of a running stream to pump water uphill
[11:25]  Lydia Milner: what fun
[11:25]  You: and fill a bucket in 3 min
[11:25]  Shakini Parnass: they came up witht he most amazing contraptions!
[11:25]  Garvie Garzo: excellent
[11:25]  Shakini Parnass: many of the teams also had costumes
[11:25]  Shakini Parnass: raincoats, buckets, wizard hats, waterguns
[11:25]  Lydia Milner: lol
[11:26]  Shakini Parnass: they used everything from dixie cups to plantholders
[11:26]  You: lots of bicycle wheels
[11:26]  Shakini Parnass: bicycle tires, pvc tubing, tin foil, raingutters
[11:26]  Garvie Garzo: wow
[11:26]  Garvie Garzo: kids are smart
[11:26]  Shakini Parnass: to make water wheels and then try to get water into the bucket
[11:26]  Lydia Milner: that soudns really intesresting
[11:26]  Shakini Parnass: one team of girls called the water wizards filled the bucket in less than a minute!
[11:26]  Lydia Milner: i'd love tohave seen it
[11:27]  Shakini Parnass: many of the highschool teams didn't get that far
[11:27]  Lydia Milner: yeah!
[11:27]  Shakini Parnass: and many of the teams barely got water into the bucket at all
[11:27]  Shakini Parnass: but they all tried and worked together as a team
[11:27]  Shakini Parnass: and had a lot of fun doing it
[11:27]  Lydia Milner: yes thatsgood
[11:27]  Shakini Parnass: they also had to document their project from beginning to end
[11:27]  Shakini Parnass: so it was a real project in that sense
[11:27]  Shakini Parnass: each team had an advisor
[11:28]  Lydia Milner: I'm sorry, I have to get amelia off to bed, but i will stay here for now, just not here :)
[11:28]  Shakini Parnass: i haven't been so inspired in a LONG time
[11:28]  Shakini Parnass: anyways, it was an awesome event!
[11:28]  Garvie Garzo: now that i think ofit, are you involving the teen sl tech in UCanTu?
[11:28]  Shakini Parnass: and definitely laid the groundwork for this
[11:28]  You: `G'night Amelia!
[11:28]  Shakini Parnass: bye!
[11:28]  Lydia Milner: Stephe, I wan tot catch up with you avouple of ther things , shall i email you?
[11:28]  sunflower Aichi: sorry
[11:29]  Shakini Parnass: no, we're not in teen SL with ucantu
[11:29]  sunflower Aichi: i had a bug
[11:29]  Garvie Garzo: np
[11:29]  Dancers Yao: /lydia how can i help remove the prim?
[11:29]  Lydia Milner: oh, you just clikc on it and click the take segment
[11:29]  Lydia Milner: right click on it first, then click take
[11:29]  Lydia Milner: i can log back in later, be about 20-30 mins gone
[11:30]  Shakini Parnass: so, i know you've all been here for awhile - please feel free to email me or steph and lets plan to meet again next week
[11:30]  Garvie Garzo: ok
[11:30]  Shakini Parnass: same time same station
[11:30]  Shakini Parnass: thank you all for coming!!!!
[11:30]  Garvie Garzo: it was good
[11:30]  Shakini Parnass: it WAS good
[11:30]  Lydia Milner: STEPHE check your IM and I'll email you later
[11:30]  Garvie Garzo: we're off to anotther great start
[11:30]  You: remember, the transcript is on
[11:30]  You: http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/ucantu/ucantu-meeting-transcripts
[11:30]  Dancers Yao: Lydia..thanks, I'll try that
[11:30]  Alisa Cleanslate: interesting, bye all.
[11:30]  Lydia Milner: great meeting, tahnks all for all your help ith ideas and boucning things aorund :)
[11:30]  Shakini Parnass: bye everyone!
[11:30]  Lydia Milner: bye:)
[11:30]  Garvie Garzo: bye
[11:30]  You: ok, bye all!
[11:31]  Alisa Cleanslate: Really inspiring