Exhibit builders 2008.06.27
Exhibit builders meeting June 27
[9:01] You: good moring Dancers and Lydia
[9:01] Dancers Yao: HI
[9:01] thebirdbath Dreamscape: hi
[9:01] Lydia Milner: hi, sorry cooking dinner
[9:01] thebirdbath Dreamscape: : )
[9:01] Lydia Milner: its 5pm
[9:01] You: good morning thebirdbath
[9:01] Lydia Milner: hi :)
[9:01] thebirdbath Dreamscape: good morning.....almost afternoon for me.
[9:01] thebirdbath Dreamscape: CST
[9:02] thebirdbath Dreamscape: In Missouri
[9:03] You: so how did you hear about us, thebirdbath?
[9:03] thebirdbath Dreamscape: I think I found you guys on the search feature...under education
[9:03] thebirdbath Dreamscape accepted your inventory offer.
[9:03] You: cool, that's us.
[9:04] thebirdbath Dreamscape: So you guys build stuff huh?
[9:04] thebirdbath Dreamscape accepted your inventory offer.
[9:04] You: we're building museum exhibits, and the best of them get built in RL for the Tech Museum in San Jose, CA
[9:05] thebirdbath Dreamscape: hmmm...sounds interesting....I used to do a lot of 3d work.....but not a lot of paying jobs for that sort of thing in the medwest....so I mostly stay with graphics
[9:05] thebirdbath Dreamscape accepted your inventory offer.
[9:06] You: where in the midwest? I spent many years in Detroit
[9:06] thebirdbath Dreamscape: St. Louis
[9:07] You: sorry to drop all that stuff on yiou, but some of it might actually be useful;-)
[9:07] You: cool
[9:07] thebirdbath Dreamscape: ok...I'll check it out...thanks
[9:07] thebirdbath Dreamscape: have to run...just wanted to drop by
[9:07] thebirdbath Dreamscape: : )
[9:07] thebirdbath Dreamscape: thanks
[9:08] You: ok, come back soon.
[9:08] thebirdbath Dreamscape: bye all
[9:08] Dancers Yao: yes...bye
[9:08] You: on the basic info notecard you have the schedule of our classes
[9:08] You: ok goodbye
[9:08] Lydia Milner: sorry not really here back soon
[9:09] You: what's for dinner ;-)
[9:09] sunflower Aichi is Online
[9:09] Draxtor Despres is Online
[9:09] You: how are you, dancers?
[9:10] Dancers Yao: I loved the scripting class about color changes...want to include it
[9:10] You: great!
[9:11] Dancers Yao: it's perfect for the learning about different ways to change skin color.
[9:11] You: Lydia, to answer your QQ, put me down for scripting for the next 2 weeks
[9:11] Lydia Milner: ok great thanks
[9:12] You: I've been thinking about a poster for the SL5B birthday deal
[9:12] Asya Pichot is Offline
[9:12] Dancers Yao: what is it
[9:13] Dancers Yao: I mean the poster
[9:13] Lydia Milner: ah yes thats due in a couple days
[9:15] You: sorry, just putting the finishing touches on it. I worked on it oin the train this AM. Be right back
[9:15] Pavig Lok: oh... so this be a privateish meeting for you folk then
[9:16] Pavig Lok: from the announcement looked like a public workshop type thing
[9:16] Dancers Yao: No you're welcome to join
[9:17] Dancers Yao: Have a seat.
[9:17] Pavig Lok: thankye
[9:17] Pavig Lok: so you're museum making folk then.
[9:18] Pavig Lok: what's on the agenda today?
[9:19] Lydia Milner: hi, back now - ish :)
[9:20] Lydia Milner: Hi New People!
[9:20] Dancers Yao: Hi, Pavig I'm dancers. We're discussing the exhibits for the UCan Tu projects.
[9:20] Lydia Milner: This is not a private meeting.
[9:20] LittleToe Bartlett: hello :)
[9:20] Lydia Milner: Thsi si the vritual representation of the Tech Museum of Innovation in Sane Jose california
[9:20] Pavig Lok: that's teh ones around us at the moment?
[9:20] Lydia Milner: We are hear to buidl exhibits some of which are chosen to be built in the real museum
[9:20] Lydia Milner: yes, thats right :)
[9:20] Pavig Lok: oh... prorotyping so to speak
[9:21] Lydia Milner: some of these are purely SL, some the ones with the blue ribbons, hve been built in rl
[9:21] Dancers Yao: yes
[9:21] Lydia Milner: yes, prototyping
[9:21] Pavig Lok: ooo fancy
[9:21] Lydia Milner: you can see it all at www.thetechvirtual.org
[9:21] Lydia Milner: its great fun! :)
[9:21] Lydia Milner: Stephe here works at the real museum :)
[9:21] You: Hi, Pavig and LittleToe, sorry, was afk
[9:21] Pavig Lok: not a problem sir
[9:21] You: welcome
[9:21] LittleToe Bartlett: :)
[9:22] Pavig Lok: so, i imagine you're all reading the museum2.0 blog and such
[9:22] Pavig Lok: do you design interactives here or just general exhibits?
[9:22] LittleToe Bartlett: I ran into Bjorn Loon at Science Friday a few weeks ago and she gave you guys a great talk up :)
[9:22] You: interactives
[9:23] You: especially
[9:23] You: great!, good for her
[9:24] You: so we're exhibiting a poster for the SL5B birthday party
[9:24] You: let me show you an idea I had
[9:24] You: I'd lioke to know what you think of it
[9:24] Draxtor Despres is Offline
[9:28] Pavig Lok: uncle spam :P
[9:28] You: lol
[9:28] LittleToe Bartlett: hee... nice
[9:28] Pavig Lok: that's not a bad poster i think
[9:29] Pavig Lok: so you're on a drive to get people designing for here?
[9:29] You: yes, very much
[9:30] Pavig Lok: hard to find creative creatives with a bit of discipline i've found
[9:30] Lydia Milner: ha ha thats funny
[9:30] Lydia Milner: i like it
[9:30] You: let me give you some more info about what we're up to
[9:30] sunflower Aichi is Offline
[9:30] You: creative creatives with discipline may be a contradiction in terms
[9:30] Lydia Milner: are you going to get the poster to give lm, list of regular events, etc?
[9:30] Lydia Milner: ucantu notecard?
[9:31] You: yes, all the above, i guess
[9:31] Pavig Lok: maybe give an lm and poke them at your website
[9:31] You: what does it need?
[9:31] You: still
[9:32] Pavig Lok accepted your inventory offer.
[9:32] Pavig Lok accepted your inventory offer.
[9:32] LittleToe Bartlett: mmm... maybe put the website on the poster for the non-clicking inclined
[9:32] You: good idea
[9:32] LittleToe Bartlett accepted your inventory offer.
[9:33] Pavig Lok: if you want someone to click on something often good to put an icon on it
[9:33] Pavig Lok: like a mouse arrow with a little star clicky type thing on it
[9:33] LittleToe Bartlett accepted your inventory offer.
[9:33] You: good idea
[9:33] Pavig Lok: people aren't very clicky usually unless you make them
[9:34] You: btw, the last notecard i gave you both has the schedule of our meetings, and our website
[9:34] Pavig Lok: thanks
[9:34] Pavig Lok accepted your inventory offer.
[9:34] LittleToe Bartlett accepted your inventory offer.
[9:35] Pavig Lok: so you find you get reasonable engagement in sl for this stuff?
[9:35] Pavig Lok: oh sorry sir my groups are full at the moment from building stuff that i can't leave
[9:35] You: ok, no pb ;-)
[9:35] LittleToe Bartlett: we'll be able to leave surf dev. very soon ;P
[9:36] You: dancers, any suggestions for the poster behind you?
[9:36] Pavig Lok: that'll be a relief, the cost of buyin sunscreen was killing the budget
[9:36] You: lol
[9:37] Lydia Milner: sorry, i have been faking being here again :)
[9:37] Lydia Milner: back now
[9:37] Dancers Yao: am preserving memory...sorry couldn't turn yet this happens everytme I'm on SL for awhile
[9:37] Dancers Yao: so I haven't seen it yet!
[9:37] Lydia Milner: lol
[9:37] Pavig Lok: curses
[9:38] Lydia Milner: brb
[9:38] Dancers Yao: I'm sure it's great!
[9:38] You: the curse of the slow computer
[9:40] Dancers Yao: yes....I am trying to upgade soon, but have tried to do the project anyway, as I was afraid to miss the opportunity. so thx for your patience
[9:40] Dancers Yao accepted your inventory offer.
[9:40] Lydia Milner: got to go amelia sick
[9:40] Lydia Milner is Offline
[9:40] Dancers Yao: sorry bye
[9:40] You: oh deal, Poor Amelia
[9:41] You: Lydia's 2 yr old daughter
[9:41] Pavig Lok gave you JP Dragon's Breath Lamp and Particle Laboratory Marker.
[9:41] You: ty Pavig
[9:41] Pavig Lok: i believe that's a tutorial marker for the particle lab tho i can't rez here to be surte
[9:41] Pavig Lok: oh wait i can
[9:41] You: cool!
[9:41] Pavig Lok: aha yes it is
[9:42] Pavig Lok: to go with the library of prims and such
[9:42] Dancers Yao: great sign...he does look serious though....I guess I also like to see the wonderful sense of fun you can have here too.
[9:43] Pavig Lok: he'd look good holding a chicken drumstick
[9:44] You: lol
[9:44] You: thanks for the particle thingy, I'll add it to the library
[9:45] Pavig Lok: no problem
[9:45] You: we had a great launch earlier this month of our first exhibits SL==>RL
[9:45] Dancers Yao: yes, wish you could order real food here....or coffee :)
[9:46] You: Philip Rosedale gave a great talk
[9:46] Pavig Lok: ooo fancy. what did he have to say for himself?
[9:47] You: http://thetechvirtual.org/blog
[9:47] Dancers Yao: the video is on the techvirtual site to hear
[9:47] You: he said he thought we were the coolese ;-)
[9:47] You: coolest
[9:48] You: he thinks "all intellectual production will bove to virtual worlds in 10 yrs"
[9:48] You: mover
[9:48] You: move
[9:48] You: type alert
[9:48] Dancers Yao: it's very inspiring.....the creative spirit of it all.
[9:48] LittleToe Bartlett: :)
[9:48] You: typo
[9:49] Pavig Lok: indeed
[9:49] You: I give up
[9:49] LittleToe Bartlett: hee
[9:49] Pavig Lok: this kind of prototyping is quite a powerful tool
[9:50] Dancers Yao: yes it's my first attempt, and there's alot of great things to learn
[9:51] You: so, Pavig and Little Toe, are you both builders?
[9:51] Pavig Lok: indeed we are
[9:51] Pavig Lok: we're probably best know for making the original greenies sim
[9:51] Pavig Lok: but we do a lot of things.
[9:52] Pavig Lok: at the moment we're working on a virtual museum project ourselves.. but its still in "secret' status
[9:52] Pavig Lok: so i'm not sure when we're allowed to start talking about it
[9:52] You: cool!wow, that's great
[9:53] Pavig Lok: but of course we've been round sl checking out what other folk are doing to see what works and doesn't
[9:53] You: I hope you'll check out http://thetechvirtual.org and join up
[9:53] LittleToe Bartlett: Ive been looking at the websites, have any of the protoypes been constructed yet?
[9:53] Draxtor Despres is Online
[9:54] Dancers Yao: what have you discovered works so far?
[9:54] You: yes, seven of them in RL
[9:54] Lydia Milner is Online
[9:54] You: is that what you meant?
[9:54] Pavig Lok: would be great to see them side by side
[9:54] You: I'm trying to get a page up that will show that
[9:55] You: welcome back Lydia
[9:55] LittleToe Bartlett: thanks... I can't find it yet :)
[9:55] Lydia Milner: hi,what did i miss?
[9:55] You: not wuite there yet :-(
[9:55] Dancers Yao: hope everything is all right Lydia
[9:55] You: quite
[9:55] You: maybe later today
[9:55] LittleToe Bartlett: ah, ok
[9:56] You: dumb q for you all: isn't there a setting in profs to stop IMs from appearing in the text chat stream?
[9:57] Lydia Milner: i was tihnking anything the poster gives is nicer if it is in an objec,t rahter than lots of loose things, also easier to fdind
[9:57] Pavig Lok: sure
[9:57] Lydia Milner: maybe like a borchure for the museum
[9:57] You: the SL5B IM stream is driving me nuts
[9:57] Lydia Milner: yes, what a socialbe lot lol
[9:57] LittleToe Bartlett: once you close the window it will stop until someone starts a new session
[9:58] LittleToe Bartlett: the window within the window, I should say
[9:58] Lydia Milner: thanks dancers, she seems to either have a tummy bug or the start of chicken pox that is sweeeeping town
[9:59] Pavig Lok: damn now i can't find it
[9:59] You: thx
[9:59] Pavig Lok: h well
[9:59] Lydia Milner: i did a brochure for the painter exh with lots of free stuff in irt
[9:59] Pavig Lok: you can minimize the im window and just ignore it if you don't mind it being there
[10:00] You: yeah, giving a lm and then a box of stuff sounds goo
[10:00] Lydia Milner: and put it in a wallmounted perspex holder, just like rl, with a sign saying please take one
[10:00] Pavig Lok: heh
[10:00] Dancers Yao: you are amazing to do so many things at once Lydia, hope it's a simple bug and goes away soon.
[10:00] Lydia Milner: can you put a litte stand in front of the pioster
[10:00] Pavig Lok: that's actually a good idea, people respond to things they recognize
[10:01] Lydia Milner: lol, hey you should see my launry pile! i only do laundry for thinking time
[10:01] Lydia Milner: she put herself to bed then throw up on the bed ugh
[10:02] You: good ideas
[10:02] Lydia Milner: i can cope as long as she doesnt huey on my lap top :)
[10:02] Dancers Yao: and then more laundry!
[10:02] You: poor Amelia
[10:02] Lydia Milner: lol yes, shame
[10:03] Lydia Milner: yes, shes v reslient
[10:03] Lydia Milner: sorry, more info that you needed :)
[10:03] Lydia Milner: Stephen, does the bday thingy have floor space as well as poster space?
[10:03] You: not sure, really
[10:04] LittleToe Bartlett: have you got a plot at slb5?
[10:04] You: yes
[10:04] You: just a poster and a LM
[10:04] You: the idea is to have folks come and visit here
[10:04] Pavig Lok: yep a lotta sl5b is like a tradeshow that way
[10:06] You: I'll have to go check out our expo site. I've been running flat out to prepare for our grant review.
[10:06] Lydia Milner: ah yes, is that done now?
[10:07] You: july 8 is the date
[10:07] You: it keeps moving ;-)
[10:09] Dancers Yao: grant writng is definitely an art and science....always difficult.
[10:09] You: is it ok with everybody if I post the chat log on our site?
[10:09] LittleToe Bartlett: fine by me
[10:09] Pavig Lok: oh sure, tis fine with me
[10:09] Dancers Yao: sure
[10:10] You: they go here: http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/meeting-transcripts/
[10:10] You: Any last-minute suggestions or comments?
[10:11] Lydia Milner: anyhting you want me to do?#
[10:11] You: just keep on truckin' !
[10:12] You: what you're doing now
[10:12] You: you had asked me 2 QQ. What was #2?
[10:13] Dancers Yao: can you give something to the people who see the poster, like a free tech tshirt?
[10:13] You: sure, good idea!
[10:13] Lydia Milner: me 2 q?
[10:14] You: oh, where to meet for UcanTu. Let's meet here from now on.
[10:15] Lydia Milner: ah yes, ok
[10:15] Lydia Milner: hmm, i just a grpnotice from someone who is having an slb 5 event on their sim
[10:16] You: dancers I see you typing, but no text comes out
[10:16] Lydia Milner: should we do a special something liker thst?
[10:16] Lydia Milner: an 'open day'type thing?
[10:16] Dancers Yao: I originally got one from the tech in San Jose, in 1990! a tshirt....so it is fun to have a virtual one too.
[10:16] You: maybe organized tours of Parkside?
[10:16] Lydia Milner: oh wow !
[10:17] You: cool
[10:17] Lydia Milner: yes and put that at the poster site, when though?
[10:17] Lydia Milner: could we do tour followed by open forum class?
[10:18] Lydia Milner: inspire ppl then get bthem bldg, b4 they think
[10:18] You: open forum?
[10:18] Lydia Milner: theyt cant do it :)
[10:18] Lydia Milner: ugh, free for all
[10:18] Lydia Milner: free form
[10:18] Lydia Milner: no set plan
[10:18] Lydia Milner: it seems common that ppl wander aorund here and then go oh i could never do that
[10:19] Lydia Milner: get them in teh dome b4 they can think that
[10:19] You: yeah I like that idea
[10:20] Dancers Yao: sorry have to leave...good to meet you, hope your family is well soon Lydia, and Stephe have a good week end. Bye
[10:20] You: lets make a schedule wiki on the sl5b project site and see who can commit time and when, then we'll post that on the poseter and on the sl calendar
[10:21] Lydia Milner: thc bye dancers
[10:21] You: sorry, I have to run. I have a RL visitor now
[10:21] Lydia Milner: ok bye
[10:21] Lydia Milner: bye all good weekends :)
[10:21] LittleToe Bartlett: goodbye... nice to meet you all
[10:21] Lydia Milner: oh stephe i sent oyu another email too :)
[10:22] You: nice meeting you Little Toe and Pavig
[10:22] Lydia Milner: we have another mtg tues at 10am here also
[10:22] You: please come back. On Tuesdays @ 10 we have a meeting about UcanTu, our current exhiubition
