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Exhibit builders 2008.07.04

by Rob Stephenson last modified 2008-07-05 21:29

Exhibit builders meeting July 4

[8:54]  Dancers Yao: Hi Lydia
[8:54]  You: hi Dancers :)
[8:55]  Dancers Yao: hi Lydia
[8:55]  Dancers Yao: is everyone feeling okay?
[9:00]  Stephe Roux is Online
[9:00]  You: Dancers, do those brochures look to you liek t hey are on top of the table please?
[9:00]  You: Not emebbed in it?
[9:00]  Dancers Yao: yes
[9:01]  You: oh good, thanks my viewer is really weird right now
[9:01]  PinkFluffy Bailey is Offline
[9:01]  You: Oh I just read back the chat. Yes thank you, they are all good now
[9:02]  Dancers Yao: I can't see details but pics are on top
[9:02]  You: hmm, can you see the blue typeface at the end nearest you?
[9:02]  You: Hi Stephe :)
[9:03]  Stephe Roux: Hi, Dancers and Lydia
[9:03]  You: I keep forgetting to do group notices these days, sorry about that :)
[9:03]  Dancers Yao: Hi working on glow....did you get my email?
[9:03]  You: I've put brochureson the orange stand outside the dome, and on benches at tp point, and at reception
 [9:03]  You: and here :)
[9:04]  You: I saw that you had already changed the notecard
[9:04]  Stephe Roux: yes I did, sorry to be slow replying. I meant to do a bit of research about a streaming server for you, but have been too busy lately
[9:05]  Stephe Roux: great, Lydia, that's terrific
[9:05]  You: yw
[9:05]  Stephe Roux: hi, orcaman, welcome
[9:06]  Orcaman Xue: ty
[9:06]  Dancers Yao: you are doing alot...thx....Shakini is trying to get high rez copies...the poster image looks like Pleo!
[9:06]  Stephe Roux: it is Pleo
[9:06]  Orcaman Xue: good to see everyone again
[9:06]  Orcaman Xue: :)
[9:06]  Stephe Roux: welcome
[9:06]  You: Hi Orcaman :)
[9:06]  Dancers Yao: Hi Orcaman
[9:07]  Dancers Yao: I saw the pics at the SL5B...they look great..
[9:08]  You: yes don't they!
[9:08]  Orcaman Xue: are you doing that work?
[9:08]  Orcaman Xue: Awesome!
[9:08]  Stephe Roux: thanks. For all of that, I'm not convinced they brought us much attention
[9:08]  Orcaman Xue: It looks really great!
[9:09]  Orcaman Xue: I have a question
[9:09]  Dancers Yao: does it last until 7/6?
[9:09]  Orcaman Xue: That's for all of sl right?
[9:09]  Stephe Roux: yes, Dancers, I think so
[9:09]  Stephe Roux: yes, all of the adult grid
[9:09]  Orcaman Xue: Do we have any pull to get some ad space w/ google or something?
[9:10]  Stephe Roux: we're about to launch UcanTu on the Teen Grid next Wed.
[9:10]  Orcaman Xue: it seems like everyone I talk to about sl has no clue about what it is...
[9:10]  You: ha ha i get that
[9:11]  You: most people think you have no friends and sit at home alone talking to pretend people on the internet lol
[9:11]  Orcaman Xue: I'm not saying we need half time on the super bowl or anything...
[9:11]  Stephe Roux: lol
[9:11]  Orcaman Xue: EXACTLY
[9:11]  Stephe Roux: yes, that's a big problem
[9:11]  Orcaman Xue: like I'm some kinda freak or something
[9:12]  Stephe Roux: but as they say, every pb is an opportunity in disguise
[9:12]  Orcaman Xue: but ya know what I saw an ad for another 3d world and it compared's myspaces :-) guy to a 3d avitar
[9:12]  Orcaman Xue: very cute
[9:12]  Orcaman Xue: very mac vs pc ish
[9:13]  Orcaman Xue: that brings me to another point
[9:13]  Stephe Roux: there are a lot of very talented and creative filks in SL, and if you talk to them for more than 10 min they'll start to complain that no one takes what they're doing seriously
[9:13]  Stephe Roux: enter The Tech Virtual!
[9:14]  Orcaman Xue: ya
[9:14]  Orcaman Xue: I hear that
[9:14]  You: yes thats true!
[9:14]  Stephe Roux: so I think that's a big opportunity for us
[9:15]  Orcaman Xue: it's like an educational point
[9:15]  You: did you manage to get hold of Kitt Stephe?
[9:15]  You: I think SL will go towards educationa nd business for leanring and developmenet and collaboration and interaction
[9:15]  You: Scilands - where this sim is - is doing this already
[9:15]  You: just remember everyone thought the world was flat
[9:15]  Stephe Roux: my TG contact, Storm Basiat, will take care of it
[9:15]  You: and that einstein was a loony
[9:15]  Orcaman Xue: honestly what I was thinking?
[9:16]  Dancers Yao: it's interesting that people with disabilities do understand SL very well, as they are often used to communicating with more internal expresssion being important
[9:16]  You: being ahead can get lonely
[9:16]  You: or you get burnt as a witch lol
[9:16]  Orcaman Xue: we have a portal to cell phones.
[9:16]  You: then years later epople hail you a a visionary heehee
[9:16]  Orcaman Xue: we have a portal for various things
[9:16]  Orcaman Xue: y not a portal for myspae?
[9:16]  You: thats a goodpoitn dancers
[9:17]  Orcaman Xue: it's chat is already open source
[9:17]  Stephe Roux: Lydia, what response did you get for your class and tour yesterday?
[9:17]  Dancers Yao: there are people who are paralyzed, but can move a cursor with other signals
[9:17]  You: sorry, i was afk
[9:18]  Stephe Roux: what response did you get for your class and tour yesterday?
[9:18]  You: ok, class was 4 i tihnk, lower than last week
[9:18]  You: tour 2 but one crashed hee hee, so we lost him
[9:18]  Stephe Roux: and the tour?
[9:18]  Dancers Yao: sorry I can't come at 12 PST Lydia
[9:18]  Stephe Roux: for my tour nobody showed :-(
[9:19]  You: i find al ot of ppl on the classes are pretty new and still dont think they can do anything without a 3 yr course :)
[9:19]  You: oh hey no problem :)
[9:19]  Stephe Roux: so SL5B has not been a rousing crowd-getter for us ;-)
[9:19]  You: its a time to suit me , doesnt suit most peopel in US
[9:19]  Orcaman Xue: I'm sorry Stephie I really wanted to be there...
[9:19]  You: no but its good to be there
[9:19]  Orcaman Xue: the reason being is it's just "inside"
[9:20]  Orcaman Xue: we're already here
[9:20]  Orcaman Xue: we need go to outside
[9:20]  You: i did see keystone there at a talk so he may ahve given us a plug :)
[9:20]  Stephe Roux: no pb Orcaman, I do it every week so there will be plenty more chances
[9:20]  Stephe Roux: I get better as I go ;-)
[9:20]  You: Stephe, did you want to pick up any of the ideas I sent you in a huge doc a while back?
[9:20]  You: lol
[9:21]  Orcaman Xue: I have a friend that works at a museum
[9:21]  Orcaman Xue: he's saying national museum month was last month
[9:21]  You: There is a govt funded webpage in UK for UK museums but I was thining of contacting them and seeing if they will run an article on SL and museusm, with big empphasis on here
[9:21]  Stephe Roux: not sure which doc, but I read what you send me assiduously!
[9:21]  You: there is a US museum day I tihnk and a UK and an intl
[9:22]  Orcaman Xue: hmmmmm
[9:22]  You: haha, sorry it was 8 paages
[9:22]  Dancers Yao: There are so many important issues today that involve tech and humanity, I would life to see more people come to the tech, and talk about them...that's what they used to do in RL in San Jose
[9:22]  You: i still think prize money and SL creative advterising like seodn style mag,
 [9:22]  You: virutal news web page, etc
[9:23]  Stephe Roux: yes, I did but I need to look again b4 it gets buried in the snads of time
[9:23]  You: costs some up front sadly
[9:23]  Stephe Roux: sands
[9:23]  Orcaman Xue: I have a huge thought
[9:23]  You: and tyring to get presentations at real univs that are in SL
[9:23]  Orcaman Xue: We're always talking about how we have so many talented people here?
[9:23]  You: as they ahve lots of clver and creative ppl roaming around trying to avoid homework hehe
[9:23]  Orcaman Xue: Why not give them a job and make ourselves bigger at the same time?
[9:23]  Stephe Roux: last may 18 was international museum day. Celebrated in SL at the Tech!
[9:24]  You: and then try and layer thar with notices on their college webpages or even goodol noticeboards
[9:24]  Stephe Roux: yes, Orcaman, go on
[9:24]  Orcaman Xue: Well I've been looking into the 3d world oustid of sl...
[9:25]  Orcaman Xue: it seems to me that if we could put "A" museum in here....
[9:25]  Orcaman Xue: We could bring others in
[9:26]  Orcaman Xue: So for a small fee we transpose their muse into sl...
[9:26]  You: i thought that was in the original plan, to assist other museums in getting set up in sl, but that human resources are limited right now, is htat right?
[9:26]  Orcaman Xue: They'd have to pay staff to make it happen
[9:26]  You: hence hosting icom in may
[9:27]  Orcaman Xue: Instead of having them do it we do it
[9:27]  Orcaman Xue: we just charge them for hosting
[9:27]  Orcaman Xue: no one wants a complex thing like sl if they've never done it bofore...
[9:27]  Orcaman Xue: so...
[9:27]  Stephe Roux: well, our real agenda is to get other museums using our open source approach to creating exhibits. SL is just a means to an end in that regard
[9:27]  Orcaman Xue: make it simple...
[9:28]  Orcaman Xue: I found a guy online that has an open source 3d browser. ;)
[9:28]  Stephe Roux: if they want to do a museum for SL visitors, great, but that's up to them
[9:28]  Orcaman Xue: but I don't think it works in here
[9:28]  Orcaman Xue: why?
[9:29]  Orcaman Xue: We can take the money that they pay and pay staff in Lindens...
[9:29]  Stephe Roux: Linden has open sourced their browser
[9:29]  Orcaman Xue: oh?
[9:29]  Orcaman Xue: I didn't know that
[9:29]  Stephe Roux: I'm running a browser from OnRez
[9:29]  Stephe Roux: now
[9:29]  Orcaman Xue: nice
[9:29]  Orcaman Xue: It would seem to me that there would be some kind of package taht could be offered to a museum board though...
[9:30]  Stephe Roux: and IBM has a browser that works in multiple worlds - SL, There.com, IBM's own , etc.
[9:30]  Orcaman Xue: too sun micro has one too
[9:30]  Orcaman Xue: but I'm not sure if it's out of development yet
[9:31]  Dancers Yao: a topic that might also interest people are the researchers in AI who are trying to desgin an Avatar that will be appear to be as intelligent as humans, but will be a robot. People could come to the tech to explore if that could ever happen.
[9:31]  Stephe Roux: cool
[9:32]  Stephe Roux: some humans are easier than others
[9:32]  Orcaman Xue: that could be interesting
[[9:33]  Dancers Yao: yes...they are also working on a grey parrot Avatar, so if you meet a parrot in SL that sounds intell...it might be a robot.
[9:33]  You: oh cool
[9:34]  Stephe Roux: I bet thy name him Alex
[9:34]  Orcaman Xue: what I really wanna find out about I guess a co. made a baby /kid that can reason?
[9:34]  Dancers Yao: He would be like Alex....yes
[9:34]  Orcaman Xue: it was supposd to me making up his mind what religion it should be
[9:35]  Orcaman Xue: what did he ever decide?
[9:35]  Orcaman Xue: =^..^= ~~hyhyhyhy  LOL~~ =^..^=
[9:35]  Stephe Roux: lol
[9:35]  Orcaman Xue: I'm just curious if it was atheism
[9:35]  You: is that a religion?
[9:35]  You: dont oyu need a diety or 2?
[9:35]  Orcaman Xue: yes it is as per our us govt
[9:35]  Orcaman Xue: they even have a church
[9:35]  Orcaman Xue: =^..^= ~~hyhyhyhy  LOL~~ =^..^=
[9:36]  You: a church of athiests?
[9:36]  Orcaman Xue: yup
[9:36]  You: what picutres are in their stained glass windows?
[9:36]  You: sears?
[9:36]  You: big question marks ? :)
[9:36]  Orcaman Xue: I think it was the guy that first came up w/ the concept
[9:36]  You: aha - a deity!
[9:37]  You: anway back to museums
[9:37]  Stephe Roux: Well,the big news is that we have decided to offer smal prizes for the UcanTu exhibit
[9:37]  You: I tihnk we need a marketing pushf or approx one year
[9:37]  You: focusing on museums and univs perf already in sl
[9:37]  You: and creative sl ppl
[9:37]  Orcaman Xue: Id agree
[9:37]  You: sl specific mags and webs and blogs
[9:37]  Stephe Roux: sounds like a good idea
[9:38]  You: and on the subjject of dieties :)
[9:38]  You: i tihnk money talks and is good to drum up interest
[9:38]  Orcaman Xue: oh ya
[9:38]  Stephe Roux: so I have a Q:
[9:38]  You: not too big, but enough to be intesresting
[9:38]  You: ok
[9:39]  Orcaman Xue: the answer is 4 or a spoon
[9:39]  You: lol
[9:39]  You: 42
[9:39]  Orcaman Xue: when the magician asks the question what am I think a # between 1 and 10 the answer is most often 4
[9:39]  Stephe Roux: what is the smallest amount of L$ that would work as a motivator for UcanTu, given that we have less than 4 wks left for it to run
[9:40]  Stephe Roux: ?
[9:40]  Orcaman Xue: when it's any item in the house it's most often a spoon
[9:40]  You: haha
[9:40]  You: hmmm
[9:40]  Orcaman Xue: $100?
[9:40]  You: 50000 as top prize and
[9:41]  You: runners up of 5k or 10k
[9:41]  You: need more than one prize as with just one hte odds are off putting
[9:41]  You: with more prizes you feel you have a chance :)
[9:42]  Orcaman Xue: true
[9:42]  You: and maybe a wall of fame,e veyone that builds here prize or not gets their av name on a wall of fame :)
[9:42]  Orcaman Xue: what about a plaque in front of their exhibit
[9:42]  Dancers Yao: I also think that interesting people in the exhibit theme would help, I mean these exhibits could actually help save real lives....that is a bit new for a museum.
 [9:43]  Stephe Roux: that's an interesting idea
[9:43]  You: they exhbs go after a while :)
[9:43]  Orcaman Xue: after all I'd love to know some of the minds that came up w/ some of the stuff we have already
[9:43]  You: like the roll on the wall at univ or regiments etc
[9:43]  You: lol
[9:43]  Orcaman Xue: it's kinda like the signature to their work ya know?
[9:43]  Orcaman Xue: go into any other museum and wht do you see?
[9:44]  Orcaman Xue: oh...
[9:44]  Orcaman Xue: the monalisa was done by who?
[9:44]  Orcaman Xue: oh we don't know
[9:44]  You: good idea dancers, how about getting US put on their webpages , make it a 2 way street?
[9:44]  You: lol
[9:44]  Stephe Roux: good idea
[9:45]  Stephe Roux: thast means we need a logo
[9:45]  Orcaman Xue: ic
[9:45]  Dancers Yao: I do the same kind of work in RL, so it is more than a design. I believe it can really help change lives, by having a place to try out these ideas....
[9:45]  You: and if you ahve to time to contact ppl (lol) we coudl try contacting other orgs in that vein e.g.g wateraid, oxfam, etc and try and get a little click through banner on their webpages too
[9:45]  You: although maybe getting a bit late for that
[9:46]  You: Is there any way to get the jul 31 date extneded?
[9:47]  You: (apologies to all those nice fabrication people for suggesting it :))
[9:47]  Stephe Roux: It isn't up to me, Shikini is running that. But I'll ask
[9:47]  You: oh yes, tahnks
[9:48]  You: i tink we need a class every day
[9:48]  You: presentations at SL/RL univs and other museums
[9:48]  Orcaman Xue: yes
[9:48]  Orcaman Xue: I've been trying to bring people here for classes
[9:48]  You: as much free press coverage anywhere as poss, SL or museum or UNIV specific
[9:48]  Dancers Yao: I am working on getting stories on Witness....they can give publicity to these projects that way....
[9:48]  You: oh thank you :)
[9:48]  Orcaman Xue: you know what I think would be good too?
[9:48]  You: oh thats good dancers
[9:48]  You: whats that?
[9:48]  Orcaman Xue: night classes
[9:49]  You: yes, ic oudl do classess at 9pm, which is 5am for me, thats when i get up lol
[9:49]  You: its a good idea thougm i do get ppl at class saying i only got here today coz i was off work
[9:50]  You: i know ppl see it on sl events though sowe know THAT works :)
[9:50]  Dancers Yao: Lydia, if any of the stories you come across in your projects could be a story for Witness, I can send you the info to get them on.
[9:50]  Orcaman Xue: I actually got a job offer using that thing
[9:50]  Orcaman Xue: =^..^= ~~hyhyhyhy  LOL~~ =^..^=
[9:50]  You: oh great thanks
[9:51]  You: job offer?
[9:51]  Orcaman Xue: ya
[9:51]  Orcaman Xue: don't go there
[9:51]  You: ok :)
[9:51]  Dancers Yao: Sorry have to leavr early....bye everyone,,,have a great week end.
[9:51]  You: oh bye dancers, you too :)
[9:52]  Orcaman Xue: u 2
[9:52]  Orcaman Xue: hugz
[9:52]  Orcaman Xue: enjoy
[9:52]  Orcaman Xue: is there a website based browser?
[9:52]  Stephe Roux is Offline
[9:52]  You: oops
[9:52]  Stephe Roux is Online
[9:52]  You: I thought he went quiet :)
[9:53]  You: hi :)
[9:53]  Stephe Roux: sorry, I'm back
[9:53]  Orcaman Xue: if we're open source and we have a mostly java browser anyway then why not have a webpage link that can open to our muse in sl?
[9:53]  Orcaman Xue: *:::* WELCOME BACK *:::*
[9:54]  Orcaman Xue: a bridge from the rw into the sl world?
[9:54]  Stephe Roux: thx
[9:54]  Stephe Roux: thx
[9:54]  You: Lydia scratches head at techno stuff
[9:55]  Orcaman Xue: well some other 3d worlds are gettin big on this "no download" thing
[9:55]  Orcaman Xue: instead they load directly into your ram...
[9:55]  Orcaman Xue: granted the animations look like something my dog could make...
[9:55]  You: lol
[9:56]  You: arent you a stockbroker?
[9:56]  Orcaman Xue: I'm a lot of things
[9:56]  Stephe Roux: I guess we last Dancers now
[9:56]  Orcaman Xue: I'm also an rn
[9:56]  Orcaman Xue: and a pilates therapist
[9:56]  You: :)
[9:56]  You: oh cool i liek pilates
[9:56]  Stephe Roux: wow
[9:56]  You: whata an r n?
[9:56]  Stephe Roux: registered nurse
[9:57]  You: ah ok
[9:57]  Orcaman Xue: registered nurse
[9:57]  You: i'm an accountant
[9:57]  Stephe Roux: what town are you from orcaman?
[9:57]  Orcaman Xue: originally? or now?
[9:57]  Stephe Roux: now
[9:57]  Orcaman Xue: Albequerque NM
[9:57]  Orcaman Xue: why?
[9:58]  Stephe Roux: I was going to suggest you look at singlepayernow.net if you were in the Bay Area
[9:58]  Stephe Roux: a healthcare group
[9:58]  Stephe Roux: I run the website
[9:59]  Orcaman Xue: what for?
[9:59]  Stephe Roux: singlepayer healthcare
[9:59]  Stephe Roux: like the British system
[9:59]  Orcaman Xue: how so?
[9:59]  Orcaman Xue: I'm very familiar w/ our system:(
[9:59]  Stephe Roux: or Frnech, German, etc
[10:00]  Orcaman Xue: you mean where the govt pays for it all?
[10:00]  Stephe Roux: govt health insurance
[10:00]  Orcaman Xue: wonderful idea but until congress can get their act together
[10:02]  Orcaman Xue: not to mention the contradiction of outsource social security but in house health insc?
[10:02]  Orcaman Xue: too many politicicans are already confused about what to do...lol
[10:02]  Orcaman Xue: or not do
[10:03]  Stephe Roux is Offline
[10:04]  You: oops again
[10:04]  Orcaman Xue: we lost him
[10:04]  Orcaman Xue: =^..^= ~~hyhyhyhy  LOL~~ =^..^=
[10:04]  Orcaman Xue: anyway
[10:04]  You: i think he will come back
[10:04]  Orcaman Xue: I won't leave ya lydia
[10:04]  Orcaman Xue: :)
[10:04]  You: tell me, what do you think is best, pilates or yoga and why?
[10:05]  You: haha thanks :)
[10:05]  Orcaman Xue: pilates
[10:05]  Orcaman Xue: by far
[10:05]  You: why is that?
[10:05]  You: lost of ppl I ask say that
[10:05]  You: often pilates teachers
[10:05]  You: yoga used ot be all the rage
[10:05]  Orcaman Xue: muscle activity goes deeper
[10:05]  You: ah ok
[10:05]  You: but what about relaxtion side of it?
[10:06]  Orcaman Xue: it's proven that pilates will do the same work yoga does in about half the time
[10:06]  Stephe Roux is Online
[10:06]  Orcaman Xue: there's an inverted pose that just releases everything
[10:06]  You: oh ok, that sounsd good i never have any time
[10:06]  You: hi sTephe :)
[10:06]  Stephe Roux: ok, three crashed and I'm out. ZI have one more to go
[10:07]  You: i used ot be bvery fit and dance and wegiht train but now i am NOT fit, adn trying pilates with my daughter but shes only 2 and doesnt get it yet lol
[10:07]  Orcaman Xue: *:::* WELCOME BACK *:::*
[10:07]  You: lol
[10:07]  Orcaman Xue: ic
[10:07]  Orcaman Xue: hmmm
[10:07]  You: so how much pilates do i need to do? is 1/2 x 5 per week ok?
[10:07]  Orcaman Xue: r u in a class?
[10:07]  You: no dvd at home
[10:07]  Orcaman Xue: there's your problem
[10:08]  You: see, i really do live my life at the computer ha ha
[10:08]  Orcaman Xue: your probably not doing the moves properly
[10:08]  Orcaman Xue: hmmmm
[10:08]  You: no i'm pretty good, eyars of dance training I know how to follow physical instrucitons
[10:08]  You: I sohudl do it in the evensngs i guess when littleones in bed
[10:08]  Orcaman Xue: ya but I've seen the dvd's :P
[10:08]  You: lol
[10:09]  You: lynne robinson
[10:09]  You: the most known in england for pilates
[10:09]  Orcaman Xue: http://www.pilatesmethodalliance.org/
[10:10]  You: oh thanks :)
[10:10]  Stephe Roux: hello
[10:10]  You: hehe posting hte chat for this meeting will be funny :)
[10:10]  You: Hi Stephe
[10:10]  Orcaman Xue: the main thing is body alignment and breathing
[10:10]  You: sorry talking about pilates
[10:10]  Orcaman Xue: sorry
[10:10]  Orcaman Xue: welcome back
[10:11]  Orcaman Xue: were weren't discussing you at all
[10:11]  Stephe Roux: sorry, I kept typing when I wansn't typing anything
[10:11]  You: lol
[10:11]  Orcaman Xue: maybe we need to focus where were bringing people in from?
[10:11]  You: to get back to the point waaay back, i dont think we can
[10:11]  You: reasonalby drum upmuch new blood b4 jul31
[10:12]  You: altohught $ will do more quickly than anything else
[10:12]  Orcaman Xue: how we bring people in?
[10:12]  You: bu tif the deadline could move then other measures coudl come into force
[10:12]  Orcaman Xue: well what's our total budget to work with?
[10:12]  You: the gen view is museums and academics and sl creatives
[10:13]  You: and i believe that with SL because its marketing communiyt is not well established, any mktg has to be SLa nd RL in piarralel
[10:13]  Stephe Roux: well we have a modest sum for recruiting, but it has to last 2 more yrs
[10:13]  You: SL skills are an issue, espcially if little time left,
[10:14]  You: so focusingon groups that fit the criteria and have SL and RL presnces could speed that up
[10:14]  Orcaman Xue: what about bringing in the kids?
[10:15]  You: e.g. denver univ, elon, open univ UK
[10:15]  Orcaman Xue: what if we went into sl 4 kids and did classes for like 16-18 yo's?
[10:15]  You: We are getting in there next week, teen grid
[10:15]  You: the last project was in teen grid asl well too
[10:15]  You: but tricky to get in
[10:15]  Orcaman Xue: but what if we built a bridge between the 2
[10:15]  Orcaman Xue: ?
[10:16]  Stephe Roux: the Teen grid (13-17 yos) is completely separate
[10:16]  You: child protetction issues
[10:16]  Stephe Roux: it took me a couple of mos to get an av there
[10:16]  Orcaman Xue: right but we can't mirror the building and classes?
[10:16]  You: good idea
[10:17]  Orcaman Xue: hell some of these kids are just as smart as the 40yo's i meet on the dance floor
[10:17]  Stephe Roux: not the bldg, b/c the isalnd where we are in TG is tiny
[10:17]  Stephe Roux: and medieval themed ;-)
[10:17]  Orcaman Xue: but isn't there one in the teen group?
[10:17]  Orcaman Xue: awesome!
[10:17]  Stephe Roux: but the kids ARE smart
[10:17]  Orcaman Xue: when science was being discovered
[10:18]  Orcaman Xue: so how much does a teen kid need to perform?
[10:18]  Orcaman Xue: that should be the question you should be asking yourself
[10:18]  Orcaman Xue: rake in the kids and we'll slowly grow
[10:18]  Stephe Roux: we also have a smart teen intern for this summer
[10:19]  You: oh good
[10:19]  Orcaman Xue: A?
[10:19]  Orcaman Xue: as in 1
[10:19]  Stephe Roux: who has his own shop in TG
[10:19]  You: ouch medieval
[10:19]  Orcaman Xue: as in singular?
[10:19]  Stephe Roux: yes
[10:20]  Orcaman Xue: what about 15?
[10:20]  Orcaman Xue: 20?
[10:20]  You: i think teen is lots smaller than here
[10:20]  Orcaman Xue: oh?
[10:20]  You: o hi see you mean one intern
[10:20]  Orcaman Xue: well we have to get them before "My World" from google comes out or we'll miss them all together
[10:20]  Stephe Roux: yeah, 1 intern
[10:21]  Stephe Roux: Google is doing a virtual world?
[10:21]  Orcaman Xue: ya it's called "My World"
[10:21]  Orcaman Xue: take google earth and over lay it w/ avitars
[10:21]  You: i thought they were doing a 3d google earth but will allow content creation at some point?
[10:21]  Orcaman Xue: they are
[10:22]  Orcaman Xue: they have 3d modeling to alow you to build buiildings on top of where the map has them already
[10:22]  Orcaman Xue: to allow the community to build them so eventually you can walk in and out of starbux no matter where your at
[10:22]  Stephe Roux: eing Google I'm sure they'll have content creation. With SketchUp
[10:22]  Orcaman Xue: it's already in use at arizona state univ
[10:23]  Orcaman Xue: I think so hang on
[10:23]  Orcaman Xue: yup and hooudah
[10:23]  Orcaman Xue: or something like that
[10:23]  Orcaman Xue: I have sketchup on my hd
[10:23]  Orcaman Xue: :)
[10:23]  You: who are present in SL
[10:23]  Orcaman Xue: and google earth
[10:23]  You: oh i love google earth
[10:24]  Orcaman Xue: my husband is wrenching my arm to go
[10:24]  Orcaman Xue: we have holiday errands to fun
[10:24]  Orcaman Xue: run
[10:24]  You: heehee
[10:24]  Orcaman Xue: sigh
[10:24]  You: we have our wedding anniv today :)
[10:24]  You: the wine is open
[10:24]  You: pinot noir
[10:24]  Orcaman Xue: omg
[10:24]  Orcaman Xue: CONGRATS!!!!!!!
[10:24]  You: thank you :)
[10:24]  Orcaman Xue: /hug
[10:24]  Stephe Roux: Happy Anniversary!
[10:24]  You: ooh :)
[10:24]  You: thankyou :)
[10:24]  Orcaman Xue: maybe we should call an early meeting?
[10:25]  You: haha this is late!
[10:25]  You: stephe, howe about for now getting together alist of all RL univs with SL rpesences and im to ask to talk at their SL site, and or drop a notecard on tehir groups about us?
[10:25]  Stephe Roux: I have to hang around a while for the hoardes of ppl for the SL5B tour ;_)
[10:25]  You: lol
[10:26]  Stephe Roux: but we can declare thie meeting over so you folks can go
[10:26]  You: thing is sll5 is huge, but is important to be there :)
[10:26]  You: ok
[10:26]  Stephe Roux: we don't want to be accused of spousal abuse
[10:26]  Stephe Roux: ;-)
[10:26]  You: lol
[10:26]  Orcaman Xue: =^..^= ~~hyhyhyhy  LOL~~ =^..^=
[10:27]  You: thats ok, Stephen has hid head up the wall st journal or someithing online
[10:27]  You: *head
[10:27]  Orcaman Xue: ok well guys I've gotta dash if we're callin it
[10:27]  Orcaman Xue: I don't know what schools are in here
[10:27]  You: Gosh we really are those ppl that sit in front of the computer all day
[10:27]  Orcaman Xue: I'd love to know myself
[10:27]  You: going to the beach this weekekdn
[10:27]  You: lots of univs here, iput a list together once, ican find it if you want Stephe?
[10:28]  Orcaman Xue: but that does sounds like a good idea
[10:28]  Stephe Roux: our best to Steven and Amelia
[10:28]  You: thank you :)
[10:28]  Orcaman Xue: forward to me too?
[10:28]  You: sure will do, after the weekend :)
[10:28]  Stephe Roux: yes, if you can find it that would be great
[10:28]  Orcaman Xue: yes my best as well
[10:28]  You: thx :)
[10:28]  Stephe Roux: I'm trying to get theTech to join the NMC
[10:28]  You: well hugs everyone, good wekends, and at least pretend its a day off Stephe :)
[10:29]  You: oh is it not?
[10:29]  Stephe Roux: lots of Us and some museums there
[10:29]  You: that sounds good
[10:30]  Stephe Roux: Lydia, since I crashed so often could you send me a transcript of thechat to post?
[10:30]  You: yes of course
[10:30]  You: let me copy that now, i have a habit of logging out without copying stuff
[10:30]  Orcaman Xue: =^..^= ~~hyhyhyhy  LOL~~ =^..^=
[10:30]  Orcaman Xue: just delete out some of our convo
[10:30]  You: haha
[10:31]  You: i dontknow, there could be lots of group memebers whose helath could benefit from this transscript:)
[10:31]  Orcaman Xue: we were absolutely silent while you were logged out
[10:31]  Orcaman Xue: :)
[10:31]  You: lol
[10:31]  Orcaman Xue: you think?
[10:31]  Stephe Roux: lol
[10:31]  Orcaman Xue: another idea
[10:31]  Orcaman Xue: some malls do it
[10:31]  Stephe Roux: ?
[10:31]  Orcaman Xue: open for a morning walk
[10:31]  Orcaman Xue: :)
[10:32]  Orcaman Xue: who can take a corner faster w/ out flying?
[10:32]  You: huh?
[10:32]  You: i go thte chat
[10:32]  Stephe Roux: races is SL/
[10:32]  Stephe Roux: ?
[10:32]  You: :)
[10:32]  You: Stehe, I will contact mars and ulysse next week also
[10:33]  You: Orcaman, do you wanna joina project here? or do one?
[10:33]  Stephe Roux: three laps around Parkside b4 we start, just to warm up the electrons
[10:33]  Orcaman Xue: ok but I'm not sure what i'd do?
[10:33]  You: lol, see i need the pilates :)
[10:33]  Orcaman Xue: I've been wanting to attend more classes but I've not had the time because I'm more on at night
[10:33]  You: oh. just turn upa nd talk and shatre ideas
[10:34]  You: if ppl are not online you can dialog cia the prject page on the web
[10:34]  Orcaman Xue: pilates is hard to do unless.....
[10:34]  Orcaman Xue: you could make a pose ball to SHOW proper positioning
[10:34]  You: ah, now ia m learning animations so that may be possible :)
[10:34]  Orcaman Xue: I'd love to learn that
[10:35]  You: www.qavimaotor.org
[10:35]  You: then Torley Linden has a good vid on you tube
[10:35]  You: isnt it intersting how so many ppl in SL have more than one activity in RL already? So do they not need another life?or does this versitality suggest they areripe for SL anyway?
[10:36]  Orcaman Xue: doesn't he for everything?
[10:36]  Bjorlyn Loon is Offline
[10:36]  You: yes, i wish i knew all he knows
[10:36]  Stephe Roux: can't find www.qavimaotor.org
[10:36]  You: oh sorry, thats my typing again
[10:36]  You: www.qavimator.org
[10:36]  Orcaman Xue: I thought it was me
[10:36]  Orcaman Xue: =^..^= ~~hyhyhyhy  LOL~~ =^..^=
[10:36]  You: i think
[10:36]  Bjorlyn Loon is Online
[10:37]  You: yep
[10:37]  Orcaman Xue: that's it
[10:37]  Orcaman Xue: :)
[10:37]  Stephe Roux: cool
[10:37]  Orcaman Xue: too I found a poseball kitt
[10:38]  Orcaman Xue: if you'd like I can pass it along?
[10:38]  Stephe Roux: sure
[10:38]  Orcaman Xue: but I can't swear by it's contents
[10:38]  You: pls
[10:38]  You: ssorry have to go
[10:39]  You: crying sleepy head here
[10:39]  Stephe Roux: bye Lydia
[10:39]  You: bye :)
[10:39]  You: its been fun :)
[10:39]  Stephe Roux: good night to Amelia
[10:39]  Orcaman Xue: bye guys


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