[10:02]  Agent Heliosense:  for example, the sim should be energy independed
[10:03]  Agent Heliosense:  independent
[10:03]  Agent Heliosense:  hi taya pls. join
[10:03]  Talya Barzane: Hi Agent
[10:03]  Asterion Coen: hello talya :)
[10:03]  Asterion Coen: for the financial independance u dont have a lot of choise
[10:03]  Agent Heliosense:  hi dancers
[10:03]  Asterion Coen: events, shops, and exhibitions
[10:04]  Asterion Coen: hello dancer :)
[10:04]  Agent Heliosense:  Talya, these are our meegings to discuss the goings on at The Tech sim
[10:05]  Dancers Yao: Hi. everyone...Alisa wanted to know if the new size was 8m by 8m in the new sim?
[10:05]  Talya Barzane: was looking in events and stumbled across
[10:05]  Talya Barzane: just curious
[10:05]  Agent Heliosense:  what we do is design exhibits for museums
[10:05]  Agent Heliosense:  thanks for coming, right now we're discussing a bit about new builders sim
[10:05]  Agent Heliosense:  which we ordered, waiting billing delivery ect.
[10:05]  Asterion Coen: hello cowboy
[10:05]  Agent Heliosense:  hi blue
[10:06]  Blue Revolution: Howdy, Pardner!
[10:06]  Blue Revolution grins.
[10:06]  Agent Heliosense:  thanks for coming we're just having our Tech Designers meetign
[10:06]  Agent Heliosense:  we ordered a new sim and awaiting delivery etc
[10:06]  Agent Heliosense:  Dancers
[10:06]  Grog Waydelich: hey guys is this the meeting?
[10:06]  Agent Heliosense:  hi Grog
[10:07]  Agent Heliosense:  pls join
[10:07]  Grog Waydelich: mind if I sit in?
[10:07]  Agent Heliosense:  sure please do
[10:07]  Dancers Yao: Hi
[10:07]  Asterion Coen: for cowboy
[10:07]  Grog Waydelich: sorry I missed the start - what are you discussing?
[10:07]  Agent Heliosense:  Grog thanks for joining
[10:07]  Agent Heliosense:  so this is the Tech and we are an RL museum in san jose ca
[10:07]  Agent Heliosense:  we use this area to design museum exhibits
[10:07]  Agent Heliosense:  and
[10:07]  Blue Revolution: I haven't checked out the new land store, so still have to order nonprofit sims the old fashioned way?
[10:08]  Grog Waydelich: oh gotcha, I've been past that museum recently but haven't been in
[10:08]  Agent Heliosense:  we are adding a new sim whcih
[10:08]  Agent Heliosense:  will be used for this model development
[10:08]  Agent Heliosense:  Dancers asked
[10:08]  Asterion Coen: hmm i always forget to add the sound on that steam
[10:08]  Agent Heliosense:  will it by 8x8 meters on the new sim and
[10:09]  Agent Heliosense:  so I"m going to plan for 10x10 so that
[10:09]  Agent Heliosense:  media can be used within the radius of the exhibit area
[10:09]  Agent Heliosense:  as you see
[10:09]  Agent Heliosense:  this sim is largely full
[10:10]  Dancers Yao: thx...we are meeting at 11am to try and finish the archiving
[10:10]  Agent Heliosense:  we only have room for 2 of Asterions trains
[10:10]  Asterion Coen: :)
[10:10]  Asterion Coen: now, i got some planes too ,)
[10:11]  Agent Heliosense:  so
[10:11]  Grog Waydelich: I am researching "group building" at PARC and would love to discuss with you guys how you build .. Would there be 2 mins later in the meeting for that?
[10:11]  Agent Heliosense:  for those new
[10:11]  Agent Heliosense:  here is our website
[10:11]  Agent Heliosense:  sure grog
[10:11]  Vette Carver: hello, may i join the class?
[10:11]  Agent Heliosense:  http://www.thetechvirtual.org
[10:11]  Agent Heliosense:  plse do Vette
[10:11]  Dancers Yao: sure
[10:11]  Agent Heliosense:  wb
[10:11]  Agent Heliosense:  hi Adama
[10:11]  Agent Heliosense:  pls join
[10:12]  Dancers Yao: hi vette
[10:12]  Agent Heliosense:  http://thetechvirtual.org/createMember
[10:12]  Vette Carver: Halllooooo everyone
[10:12]  Agent Heliosense:  this is our site and so
[10:12]  Agent Heliosense:  what you do is
[10:12]  Agent Heliosense:  sign up and then you can be allotted space to develope exhibits when we start our next round
[10:12]  Agent Heliosense:  the previous round was called UcanTu
[10:12]  Agent Heliosense:  and folks like Dancers here
[10:13]  Agent Heliosense:  made exhibits related to those topics
[10:13]  Agent Heliosense:  we design msueum exhibits
[10:13]  Asterion Coen: the next one will be UshouldTu :)
[10:13]  Dancers Yao: it is a great experience
[10:13]  Agent Heliosense:  lol
[10:13]  Agent Heliosense:  or
[10:13]  Agent Heliosense:  UbetterDo
[10:13]  Asterion Coen: also :)
[10:14]  Asterion Coen: UbetterDu !
[10:14]  Agent Heliosense:  so anyone interested in design, education
[10:14]  Agent Heliosense:  building, and creating should join this
[10:14]  Vette Carver: yes, i am
[10:14]  Grog Waydelich: I just read your website ... I have read about Tech Virtual before and seen some videos
[10:15]  Agent Heliosense:  and then, our next round will be "Art - Film- Music - Games"
[10:15]  Agent Heliosense:  until then, we are designing a new sim layout
[10:15]  Grog Waydelich: are the builds all done "individually" or do people get together and collaborate too?
[10:15]  Agent Heliosense:  and so i have a project started on that
[10:15]  Asterion Coen: the only word i dont like in the next contest is "music" :)
[10:15]  Dancers Yao: Agent Shakini mentioned they were still trying to obtain the video with N. Mandela that I could add to the exhibit....she would keep me posted. and i was inviting some people to see it...so how long will it be available?
[10:16]  Agent Heliosense:  http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/ucantu-projects/dept-of-building-and-grounds/
[10:16]  Agent Heliosense:  better ask Shakini on that one, maybe IM her because she is collecting those things
[10:16]  Agent Heliosense:  Grog,
[10:16]  Agent Heliosense:  you can build on your own or
[10:17]  Agent Heliosense:  you can join a team
[10:17]  Agent Heliosense:  so, for example
[10:17]  Agent Heliosense:  http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/ucantu-projects/dept-of-building-and-grounds/
[10:17]  Blue Revolution: How does team building work? I always find it tedious to try to do things with multiple owners on prims.
[10:17]  Agent Heliosense:  is a "project"
[10:17]  Agent Heliosense:  great point Blue
[10:18]  Agent Heliosense:  what we try to do is to get folks to set the objects to group
[10:18]  Asterion Coen: i brb
[10:18]  Grog Waydelich: Problems like that are what my research is about - how people work together on a build, what are the problems in th euser interface etc
[10:18]  Agent Heliosense:  we build with full permissions so that
[10:19]  Agent Heliosense:  the exhibit can be used in the virtual museum later
[10:19]  Grog Waydelich: But I'm focussing especially on "simultaneous" group builds, 2 ormore people working at the same time
[10:19]  Grog Waydelich: How to reference objects etc
[10:19]  Agent Heliosense:  well
[10:20]  Dancers Yao: Agent....okay thx...can I email you then when archiving is done for you to check it out?
[10:20]  Blue Revolution: My partner coordinated a six sim build, and basically each person contributed an entire structure for each needed venue.
[10:20]  Agent Heliosense:  please do Dancers
[10:20]  Grog Waydelich: Do people say "the prim on your right" , ie location relative to an avatar, or do the describe the appearance of the prim
[10:20]  Agent Heliosense:  right Grog this is a great place to get first hand experience
[10:20]  Grog Waydelich: So in that group build, each person built their piece, and the pieces were joined together at the end?
[10:20]  Agent Heliosense:  anyone who's worked on group builds want to take the question?
[10:21]  Dancers Yao: okay....need to go work on it....nice to meet everyone...hope you enjoy this as much as I have.....the group really worked for our exhibit...
[10:21]  Agent Heliosense:  don't be shy
[10:21]  Blue Revolution: People were asked to put it in rez faux so it could be rezzed and moved in place, while still protecting their intellectual property rights. They just had to give a copy/no transfer version.
[10:21]  Blue Revolution: Nice meeting you too Dancers.
[10:22]  Grog Waydelich: was any of the group work "simultaneous" or did the members mostly work separetly?
[10:22]  Agent Heliosense:  thanks Dancers just im me and i'll see if i can assist
[10:22]  Blue Revolution: But that was over six sims, and had to be put into place in a week.
[10:22]  Dancers Yao: I found that defining each of our skills and sharing them....it was very helpfullll
[10:22]  Agent Heliosense:  well i think it's both because
[10:22]  Talya Barzane: I've got to go, thanks guys
[10:22]  Agent Heliosense:  people are in different tiem zones
[10:22]  Vette Carver: is this project for beginners?
[10:22]  Agent Heliosense:  ok Talya
[10:23]  Agent Heliosense:  sure,
[10:23]  Dancers Yao: often was improvizational....exploring
[10:23]  Grog Waydelich: Maybe I should see if I can observe a group build
[10:23]  Vette Carver: I came in a lil late sorry, but when and where does the project take place?
[10:23]  Agent Heliosense:  We are in-between rounds right now.
[10:23]  Grog Waydelich: it's the actual communication process while building that I'm researching
[10:24]  Agent Heliosense:  http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/ucantu-projects/dept-of-building-and-grounds/
[10:24]  Agent Heliosense:  if you fancy yourself an architect, urban planner, or designer or landscaper
[10:24]  Dancers Yao: our skills together....then working separatly as well...trying to define common goals...then how each person can add their unique skills helps the creative process
[10:24]  Agent Heliosense:  join my project and contribute some suggestiosn
[10:24]  Vette Carver: than you.
[10:24]  Vette Carver: thank you.
[10:24]  Agent Heliosense:  Dancers had a good case example from what I saw.
[10:25]  Dancers Yao: yes great people to work with
[10:25]  Agent Heliosense:  and her team exhibit won "most inspiring"!
[10:25]  Grog Waydelich: I don't want to take over your meeting with this line of questioning ... can I chat with you later?
[10:25]  Dancers Yao: it was great to have each person add what they wanted and see how it could work together
[10:26]  Agent Heliosense:  http://thetechvirtual.org/blog/archive/2008/08/12/winners-of-the-ucantu-competition
[10:26]  Dancers Yao: everyone was quite open to exploring and this really helps...being creative, but focused on a common goal
[10:26]  Agent Heliosense:  for those new, i encourage sign up here, create a profile http://thetechvirtual.org/createMember
[10:27]  Agent Heliosense:  and then youll be set up for next round which starts next month or so.
[10:27]  Dancers Yao: finally leaving now! thx and bye
[10:27]  Agent Heliosense:  ty Dancers
[10:27]  Agent Heliosense:  also join http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/ucantu-projects/dept-of-building-and-grounds/ project
[10:27]  Agent Heliosense:  I don't know, is that a boring name?
[10:28]  Agent Heliosense:  i'm going to add some stuff to it maybe today
[10:28]  Asterion Coen: bacl
[10:28]  Agent Heliosense:  I really would like input on the new sim for exhibit designers
[10:28]  Asterion Coen: k
[10:28]  Grog Waydelich: you mean "Dept of buildings and grounds" ? I loev that name
[10:28]  Agent Heliosense:  wb
[10:28]  Asterion Coen: thx :)
[10:28]  Agent Heliosense:  hehe
[10:29]  Agent Heliosense:  well "Dept. of Public Works" is taken
[10:29]  Asterion Coen: great!
[10:29]  Asterion Coen: i got some cranes, bulldozers, etc
[10:29]  Agent Heliosense:  that's fantastic
[10:29]  Asterion Coen: (and usefull wiaht that name)
[10:29]  Asterion Coen: :)
[10:30]  Agent Heliosense:  I will try to elaborate also on this but essentially
[10:30]  Agent Heliosense:  the museum has topical areas such as
[10:30]  Agent Heliosense:  biotech, energy +environment, spirit of silicon valley, art-film-music
[10:31]  Agent Heliosense:  and UcanTu which is actaully "Tech Awards"
[10:31]  Agent Heliosense:  so, we will be designing exhibits in these themes
[10:31]  Blue Revolution: Hav eyou all heard about the architecture film festival in Modesto?
[10:31]  Agent Heliosense:  you, beginners or not can contribute in many ways
[10:31]  Blue Revolution: I heard it's the only one in the western hemisphere.
[10:31]  Grog Waydelich: do any of your planning events happen at the (physical) museum?
[10:31]  Agent Heliosense:  you can build with a team, sketch, write, coordinate, write a poem even
[10:32]  Blue Revolution: Pardon, the bit about architecture, mae me go off topic.
[10:32]  Agent Heliosense:  Any of these creations can be added
[10:32]  Agent Heliosense:  to the project
[10:32]  Agent Heliosense:  the purpose is, to create "open source" exhibits, meaning that
[10:33]  Agent Heliosense:  museums would be able to install exhibits based on the designs
[10:33]  Agent Heliosense:  found here. You as designer receive attribution for the licesense, meaning, your name is on it.
[10:33]  Agent Heliosense:  nice dozer Asterion
[10:34]  Asterion Coen: i like nice stuffs :)
[10:34]  Agent Heliosense:  you will have no shortage of work i think!
[10:34]  Asterion Coen: and that new relase is lot less primy than the last one :)
[10:35]  Agent Heliosense:  Asterion for example is a serious builder, he could partner with others who are beginning builders and work on a project
[10:35]  Agent Heliosense:  or work alone
[10:35]  Agent Heliosense:  so if you want to try out this, just join up with "Building and Grounds" to see how it can work
[10:36]  Agent Heliosense:  then, we will be doing the art film music and there will also be a machinima aspect
[10:36]  Agent Heliosense:  although at the moment our curators have not given all the requirements yet
[10:36]  Asterion Coen: marie popins on SL, that will be funny
[10:37]  Agent Heliosense:  sure it's art, film music right?
[10:37]  Grog Waydelich: is BandG an SL group?
[10:37]  Asterion Coen: marie popins ? yes
[10:37]  Agent Heliosense:  oh guess what
[10:37]  Blue Revolution: Isn't everything art?
[10:38]  Blue Revolution: I see so many sculptures that I often confuse with construction trash.
[10:38]  Agent Heliosense:  we also have classes on Wed and Thu
[10:38]  Agent Heliosense:  for building and scripting, beginner level!
[10:38]  Blue Revolution: So I just assume it's art, until I see the dump truck cart it away.
[10:38]  Vette Carver: ok
[10:38]  Asterion Coen: blue we dont call that trash, but modern art !
[10:38]  Blue Revolution winks.
[10:38]  Asterion Coen: (also, that's why i dont build scultures)
[10:39]  Agent Heliosense:  Industrial Arts!
[10:39]  Asterion Coen: i prefere thoses :)
[10:39]  Agent Heliosense:  we had a visit fromt the president of the Cité des Sciences et de l'Industrie
[10:39]  Asterion Coen: oh, realy ?
[10:40]  Asterion Coen: that's a good point :)
[10:40]  Agent Heliosense:  are you near it, ASterion?
[10:40]  Asterion Coen: it's it in paris, yes, im near it :)
[10:40]  Asterion Coen: if*
[10:41]  Agent Heliosense:  our president of museum here talks highly of it
[10:42]  Asterion Coen: i think every museum presidents use to talk about other musuems :)
[10:42]  Agent Heliosense:  smile you're on http://www.flickr.com/photos/thetechvirtual/
[10:42]  Blue Revolution: I hope you got my good side.
[10:42]  blogHUD Messenger: Your image post has arrived at blogHUD.com [and emailed to whole80paid@photos.flickr.comand crossposted to HyperFuture]: see http://bloghud.com/id/25290
[10:43]  Asterion Coen: did i got a good smiles during the photo shoot ? :)
[10:43]  Blue Revolution: I wish SL would just let us publish items from our inventory. Then we wouldn't need to worry about flickr.
[10:43]  Grog Waydelich: gee I was asleep then!
[10:43]  Agent Heliosense:  hehe your dozer
[10:44]  Asterion Coen: blue, erm, looks like your bad side :)
[10:44]  Blue Revolution: Ah well:-)
[10:44]  Agent Heliosense:  see our windmills
[10:44]  Blue Revolution: Gosh, Parc....that brings back memories of MOO.
[10:44]  Agent Heliosense:  this is where I want the thinking to go for the new sim... new sim shoudl be energy-independent
[10:44]  Agent Heliosense:  as an example
[10:45]  Asterion Coen: grog, too bad. how do u want to be hire if about the dozen of million folks on internet see you sleeping on important meetings !
[10:45]  Asterion Coen: now u can change your name
[10:45]  Agent Heliosense:  it's early in CA
[10:45]  Agent Heliosense:  so we'll wrap up shortly
[10:45]  blogHUD Messenger: Your image post has arrived at blogHUD.com [and emailed to whole80paid@photos.flickr.comand crossposted to HyperFuture]: see http://bloghud.com/id/25291
[10:46]  Grog Waydelich: I just didn't move my mouse for a while
[10:46]  Agent Heliosense:  once again, we are inbetween competitions but you can join
[10:46]  Agent Heliosense:  http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/ucantu-projects/dept-of-building-and-grounds/
[10:46]  Blue Revolution: You should get the freebie mysti-tool it will keep you from idling.
[10:46]  Agent Heliosense:  to contribute your ideas for the new sim
[10:47]  Agent Heliosense:  Asterion is loaning dozers and other equipment
[10:47]  Blue Revolution: Agent, I'll pass the link on to my friends who build. I'm more of a person who connects people together.
[10:47]  Vette Carver: you have a LM for that Blue?
[10:47]  Agent Heliosense:  exclelent Blue
[10:47]  Grog Waydelich: thanks for LM
[10:47]  Blue Revolution: The freebie is inside the door to the right.
[10:48]  Asterion Coen: blue, that's great! can u connect me with bill gates ? ;)
[10:48]  Vette Carver: thank you.
[10:48]  Asterion Coen: i will build a new operating system for him
[10:48]  Vette Carver: thank you Blue
[10:48]  Vette Carver: thank you Agent Heliosense
[10:48]  Blue Revolution smiles at Asterion.
[10:48]  Agent Heliosense:  what's going around?
[10:49]  Asterion Coen: thx :)
[10:52]  Agent Heliosense:  yes were wrapping up
[10:52]  Agent Heliosense:  ok so
[10:52]  Agent Heliosense:  join us for a calss tomorrow at 11
[10:52]  Agent Heliosense:  thu. at 12
[10:53]  Grog Waydelich: Are you giving the class? What is it about?
[10:53]  Vette Carver: ok
[10:53]  Agent Heliosense:  and do create an account at http://thetechvirtual.org/createMember
[10:53]  Agent Heliosense:  yes myself or Stephe Roux
[10:53]  Agent Heliosense:  it is beginning building
[10:54]  Vette Carver: see you tomorrow Agent Heliosense.
[10:54]  Vette Carver: nice meeting you all
[10:54]  Vette Carver: again thank you