[9:55]  Agent Heliosense: HI
[9:55]  Freemason Magic: hi
[9:55]  Freemason Magic: how are you
[9:55]  Agent Heliosense: well start in a momnet
[9:56]  Agent Heliosense: maybe read up on our new program http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/tech-challenge/
[9:58]  Agent Heliosense: hi
[9:59]  Agent Heliosense: how did you find us fo r this meeting/
[10:00]  Agent Heliosense: welcome to tech virtual
[10:00]  Agent Heliosense: what we do here is design for museum content, especially exhibits
[10:00]  Agent Heliosense: hi TJ
[10:00]  TJ Asp: howdy
[10:01]  Agent Heliosense: i'm not sure if freemason was here before.... apparently we're friends
[10:01]  Agent Heliosense: anyway
[10:01]  Agent Heliosense: TJ you know what we do here and so does Ned .. hi ned!
[10:01]  Agent Heliosense: freemason our current program is... called Tech Challenge - Design a Challenge
[10:02]  Ned Easterwood: Hey agent
[10:02]  Agent Heliosense: winning entries get $200 USD and it is all explained at http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/tech-challenge/
[10:02]  Agent Heliosense: hi Rocket
[10:02]  Rocket Sellers: hello
[10:02]  Agent Heliosense: thanks for coming!
[10:02]  Agent Heliosense: i'm just startin in
[10:02]  TJ Asp: hi Rocket
[10:02]  Agent Heliosense: on details about http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/tech-challenge/
[10:02]  Ned Easterwood: We on voice agent
[10:02]  Ned Easterwood: ?
[10:02]  Agent Heliosense: text
[10:02]  Ned Easterwood: Cool
[10:03]  Agent Heliosense: meetings are text, to save the chatlog
[10:03]  Agent Heliosense: yep so
[10:03]  Agent Heliosense: new challenge now available!
[10:03]  Agent Heliosense: http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/tech-challenge/
[10:03]  Agent Heliosense: Ned and Rocket were around yesterday or Wed. and I did a lot of explaining
[10:03]  Agent Heliosense: basically, what you do is
[10:04]  Agent Heliosense: design a challenge for youth - a design - engineerign - science based challenge
[10:04]  Agent Heliosense: the "youth" are teams of kids grade 5-12 age 10-18
[10:04]  Agent Heliosense: they come to the museum on 1 particular day
[10:04]  Agent Heliosense: to demo their contraption
[10:05]  Agent Heliosense: if it succeeds they get points towards winning the Tech Challenge and the winners get a medal
[10:05]  Agent Heliosense: it's liki a mini-X prize
[10:05]  Agent Heliosense: they have to model how to accomplish something
[10:06]  Agent Heliosense: so upcoming in 2009 it's "drop these ping pong balls into this volcano"
[10:06]  Agent Heliosense: this model of a volcano - it is a simulation of what real geologists do
[10:06]  Agent Heliosense: hi solar
[10:06]  Solar Burner: hi
[10:06]  Agent Heliosense: pls join
[10:06]  Agent Heliosense: yes so other years have been
[10:06]  Agent Heliosense: a mars rover
[10:07]  Agent Heliosense: a device that climbs a cable
[10:07]  Agent Heliosense: an underwater device that retreieves a barrel
[10:07]  Solar Burner: voice chat ? Agent?
[10:07]  Agent Heliosense: challenges, design challenges
[10:07]  Agent Heliosense: text solar
[10:07]  Solar Burner: ok
[10:07]  Agent Heliosense: so YOUR challenge is..... design this challenge for youth
[10:08]  Agent Heliosense: illustrate it in SL
[10:08]  Agent Heliosense: http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/tech-challenge/ is where you start
[10:08]  Agent Heliosense: you can start a "project" which is your challenge design
[10:08]  Agent Heliosense: we give you space to build!
[10:08]  Agent Heliosense: we even have this whole sim here with moutaiins and whatnot, I'll work with you if you need some space to illustrate something
[10:09]  Agent Heliosense: a great chance to make a portfolio piece for educators, museumm people, students, designers, scientists, grad students, etc etc
[10:10]  Agent Heliosense: if you are none of the above get into it as something fun to do with your second life skills
[10:10]  Agent Heliosense: has anyone here built stuff for our exhibit designs before?
[10:10]  Agent Heliosense: Blackowl has and i think TJ has
[10:11]  Agent Heliosense: and so anyone there today good morning
[10:11]  Ned Easterwood: I'm just new to all of this
[10:11]  Rocket Sellers: i keep freezing up, gotta relog i think
[10:12]  Rocket Sellers: listening to you Agent
[10:12]  Agent Heliosense: ok just checking
[10:12]  Agent Heliosense: so really some of our exhibit design winners got great content going regardless of ability
[10:12]  Rocket Sellers: brb
[10:12]  Agent Heliosense: one person won the design contest by uploading one image to SL
[10:12]  Agent Heliosense: hows that for easy
[10:13]  Rocket Sellers: it was probably genius to pick the image ?
[10:13]  Agent Heliosense: does anyboday have any special interests that you think you might
[10:13]  Agent Heliosense: design a challenge around?
[10:13]  Agent Heliosense: or know of any special issues or problems you think students should be trying to think about and solve?
[10:13]  Ned Easterwood: I would have to think about it.
[10:14]  Ned Easterwood: I liked your idea yesterday of multiple natural power sources - I thought that very interesting.
[10:14]  Agent Heliosense: TJ is into science... Owl?
[10:14]  Agent Heliosense: yes this is the mode of thinking - there could be varioations on that challenge
[10:15]  Agent Heliosense: if you can be specific it's best like yesterday the idea was
[10:15]  TJ Asp: do you have references for the past challenges?
[10:15]  Agent Heliosense: a house, with an alternative power source, built Into the house
[10:15]  Agent Heliosense: yes
[10:15]  Agent Heliosense: http://techchallenge.thetech.org/tc_archive.cfm
[10:16]  TJ Asp: tks
[10:16]  Agent Heliosense: this shows the previous challenges that have been done
[10:16]  Agent Heliosense: there was some repetition on the mars rover i think
[10:16]  Agent Heliosense: think about current science topics ro
[10:16]  Agent Heliosense: or
[10:16]  Agent Heliosense: future science topics
[10:17]  Agent Heliosense: any challenge where you have to build something, move something
[10:17]  Agent Heliosense: solve some wierd problem, even if it sounds unecessary you can work with it
[10:18]  Agent Heliosense: our site
[10:18]  Agent Heliosense: http://wwww.thetechvirtual.org
[10:18]  Ozzy Wozniak: hi]
[10:18]  Agent Heliosense: allows you to change whatever you enter, dont worrry about
[10:18]  Agent Heliosense: that, you can always update things
[10:18]  Agent Heliosense: hi ozzy
[10:19]  Agent Heliosense: hi ozzy i was just
[10:19]  Agent Heliosense: describing
[10:19]  Agent Heliosense: http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/tech-challenge/
[10:19]  Agent Heliosense: hi serene
[10:19]  Serene Jewell: Hello
[10:19]  Agent Heliosense: yes so
[10:19]  Agent Heliosense: it's a great opportunity
[10:20]  Agent Heliosense: to make a portfolio piece that will become part of
[10:20]  Agent Heliosense: future tech challenges if chosen
[10:20]  Agent Heliosense: not only that....
[10:20]  Agent Heliosense: our platform will be rolled out to additional scenece museums
[10:20]  Agent Heliosense: no not seance museums....science museums sorry
[10:20]  Agent Heliosense: hehe
[10:20]  Serene Jewell: :-)
[10:20]  Ned Easterwood chuckles
[10:21]  Agent Heliosense: serene i was just explaining our new "Design a challenge"
[10:21]  Agent Heliosense: http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/tech-challenge/
[10:21]  Agent Heliosense: also
[10:21]  Agent Heliosense: you can form teams
[10:21]  Agent Heliosense: that's encouraged
[10:21]  Agent Heliosense: can't buld? find a builder and team up!
[10:22]  Agent Heliosense: you can join teams on the site too
[10:22]  Agent Heliosense: who's been part of our building projects before/
[10:22]  Agent Heliosense: ?
[10:23]  Agent Heliosense: Oz raised his hand
[10:23]  Agent Heliosense: wb Rocket
[10:23]  Rocket Sellers: thanks
[10:24]  Agent Heliosense: so do any of you have favorite topics that you think might make good areas to think about?
[10:25]  TJ Asp: electric vehicles
[10:25]  Agent Heliosense: great
[10:25]  Ozzy Wozniak: ty see youlater
[10:25]  Serene Jewell: good idea
[10:25]  Rocket Sellers: space resources
[10:25]  Agent Heliosense: ok oz
[10:25]  Rocket Sellers: energy transmission maybe
[10:25]  Serene Jewell: electric vehicles - like that idea
[10:25]  Raskolnikow Roffo: hellow
[10:25]  Raskolnikow Roffo: peoples
[10:25]  Rocket Sellers: RAsk!
[10:25]  Agent Heliosense: excellent
[10:25]  TJ Asp: but how to structure a program to solve the problem of bringing one to market at under $40,000?
[10:25]  Agent Heliosense: hi Rask
[10:25]  Raskolnikow Roffo: oh hi rocket
[10:25]  Raskolnikow Roffo: lol
[10:25]  Raskolnikow Roffo: hellow
[10:25]  Raskolnikow Roffo: ")
[10:25]  Raskolnikow Roffo: :)
[10:26]  Agent Heliosense: right, that could be a good start
[10:26]  Raskolnikow Roffo: mind if i have a seat here?
[10:26]  Agent Heliosense: pls join
[10:26]  Ned Easterwood: I am going to continue withthe alternative energy sources for dwellings.
[10:26]  Agent Heliosense: ok that's good
[10:27]  Rocket Sellers: teleoperated space exploration
[10:27]  Rocket Sellers: with delays
[10:27]  TJ Asp: excellent
[10:28]  Agent Heliosense: sorry
[10:28]  TJ Asp: like driving the mars rovers, send commands, have lunch, see if you crashed
[10:28]  Agent Heliosense: i was having a text problem
[10:28]  Rocket Sellers: well what's the solution to that?
[10:28]  Agent Heliosense: those who joined late here's the page we are on http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/tech-challenge/
[10:28]  Rocket Sellers: how to keep busy for 45 minutes between commands
[10:28]  TJ Asp: lol
[10:28]  Rocket Sellers: have 45 robots
[10:29]  TJ Asp: have good sensors and don't try to move too far at once :-)
[10:29]  Rocket Sellers: i really hate this table
[10:29]  Agent Heliosense: it can be problematic
[10:29]  TJ Asp: I just like seeing this table change shape
[10:30]  Raskolnikow Roffo: why is there a table in the first place?
[10:30]  TJ Asp: convention
[10:30]  Agent Heliosense: its working for meetings
[10:30]  Solar Burner: table and chair is just fine, i have no idea Rocket can not sit
[10:30]  Agent Heliosense: things to think about
[10:30]  Agent Heliosense: 1. Title of the challenge: (A catchy memorable name that generates interest):
[10:31]  Agent Heliosense: Description of the challenge: What is the basic challenge in 1 sentence?
[10:31]  Agent Heliosense: Description of successful completion of the challenge: What will a mechanism do to successfully complete the challenge?
[10:31]  Agent Heliosense: Limitations on solutions: what must the device have or not have to qualify? What limitations are there?
[10:31]  Agent Heliosense: and, some possible solutions
[10:31]  TJ Asp: like : Pick a Pike. good one :-)
[10:32]  Agent Heliosense: then, we do an illustration of it here in SL
[10:32]  Agent Heliosense: doesnt have to be expert building, in fact I"d like to see
[10:32]  Agent Heliosense: documentation by illustration to that is also fine if that's what you are good at
[10:32]  Agent Heliosense: the idea sis to communicate your idea clearly,
[10:33]  Agent Heliosense: Judging criteria: Topic selection: 20% Educational: 20% Relevance: 20% Feasibility: 20% Creativity: 20%
[10:34]  Raskolnikow Roffo: prim fusion
[10:34]  Agent Heliosense: prim fusion, can you help me on that one
[10:34]  Raskolnikow Roffo: i have no idea, just popped into my mind, but i thinks u can go many ways with it...
[10:35]  Agent Heliosense: probably it's important to remember, this is for "real life" RL as we call it
[10:35]  Agent Heliosense: so you don't have to put time and energy into second life scripting etc.
[10:35]  Agent Heliosense: it's good to do so of course but the main thing is
[10:36]  Agent Heliosense: Design a challenge for youth that gets used for a Tech Challenge
[10:36]  Agent Heliosense: what other topics come to mind
[10:36]  Agent Heliosense: environment, energy, space
[10:37]  Agent Heliosense: think of the SL build as part of your documentation
[10:37]  Agent Heliosense: does anyone here work in design related areas?
[10:38]  Raskolnikow Roffo: inworld, yesh
[10:38]  Agent Heliosense: a project like this with it's pages, etc would make great portfolio opportunity
[10:39]  Raskolnikow Roffo: imma interested in this gathering, plz continue so i will learn more about you
[10:40]  Agent Heliosense: hehe, ive been chatting my fingers down to stubs heheh
[10:40]  Ned Easterwood laughs
[10:40]  Agent Heliosense: we're kind of brainstorming for
[10:40]  Ned Easterwood: Well I think I'm set Agent.
[10:41]  Agent Heliosense: http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/tech-challenge/
[10:41]  Raskolnikow Roffo: imma reading more about your place meanwhile
[10:41]  Agent Heliosense: Ned
[10:41]  Agent Heliosense: you need a spot to build right?
[10:41]  Ned Easterwood: Would be good
[10:41]  Agent Heliosense: for those just joiing, we alot you space to build here
[10:41]  Ned Easterwood: Been building at my place
[10:41]  Agent Heliosense: Ned why not pick a spot out there on the sim
[10:41]  Agent Heliosense: view-> land owners
[10:42]  Ned Easterwood: Ok
[10:42]  Agent Heliosense: will show you the green square outlines
[10:42]  Solar Burner: i need the spot too agent
[10:42]  Ned Easterwood: OK
[10:42]  Agent Heliosense: solar, please choose a spot
[10:42]  Agent Heliosense: rez a cube or
[10:42]  Solar Burner: ok
[10:42]  Agent Heliosense: inside the kit ehre
[10:42]  Agent Heliosense: here
[10:42]  Agent Heliosense: free kit
[10:42]  Agent Heliosense: has
[10:42]  Agent Heliosense: what we call exhibit frames
[10:43]  Agent Heliosense: you can use that to start asssembling something
[10:43]  Agent Heliosense: it's helpful
[10:43]  Solar Burner shouts: this one
[10:43]  Solar Burner shouts: next to the fountain
[10:44]  Solar Burner shouts: thank you
[10:44]  Agent Heliosense: yes so
[10:44]  Agent Heliosense: i'll work with you
[10:44]  Agent Heliosense: your entry will have a web page and an sl space
[10:44]  Skins & Shapes Expo: Skins & Shapes Expo, Nov 21 - 23.  Live performances, DJs, giveaways & much more. Hottest & Newest looks in SL.  Don't miss it!!
[10:44]  Agent Heliosense: we have space for approx 50 entries at one time
[10:45]  Agent Heliosense: i hthink
[10:45]  Agent Heliosense: unless you are a "prim abuser"
[10:45]  Solar Burner: haha
[10:45]  Ned Easterwood grins
[10:45]  Solar Burner: use scculty
[10:45]  Solar Burner: oops
[10:45]  Agent Heliosense: i don't know about you but to me i can do 400 prims before breakfast
[10:45]  Agent Heliosense: we also have rezzers
[10:45]  Raskolnikow Roffo: lol
[10:45]  Ned Easterwood laughs
[10:46]  Agent Heliosense: powerful techlologies!
[10:46]  Ned Easterwood: Well I will go grab a space Agent.
[10:46]  Agent Heliosense: we can store your creations with rezers
[10:46]  Agent Heliosense: ok ned
[10:46]  Raskolnikow Roffo: it is very interesting to be here, u peoples is like different kind of builders it seems
[10:47]  Agent Heliosense: Rask yes we are focused primarily on prototyping for RL projects
[10:47]  Raskolnikow Roffo: i have a background of psychology, philosophy and art, i thinks u peoples are much into science more
[10:47]  Agent Heliosense: we're not looking for astonishing second life installations, although I will include whatever i can in our dattabases
[10:48]  TJ Asp: I'm off, almost showtime
[10:48]  Agent Heliosense: Rask stick with us - we have a whole gallery upcoming on digital "art -film - music -games"
[10:48]  Raskolnikow Roffo: ohh
[10:48]  Agent Heliosense: as well as this http://www.programforthefuture.org
[10:49]  Agent Heliosense: early next year we'll be developing exhibits around these two additional themes
[10:49]  Agent Heliosense: also a big interest in the future here
[10:49]  Raskolnikow Roffo: oh that is very interesting
[10:50]  Raskolnikow Roffo: i bookmarked it and will read more about it
[10:50]  Agent Heliosense: i don't hae a page yet for "art film music games" but will have one soon
[10:50]  Raskolnikow Roffo: i have many connections with peoples who make art in rl and sl
[10:51]  Agent Heliosense: that is for a gallery in the real museum to open in 2010
[10:51]  Raskolnikow Roffo: thanks Agent, i appreciate it :)
[10:52]  Solar Burner: Freemason
[10:52]  Solar Burner: I cant join right now
[10:52]  Solar Burner: may be later
[10:53]  Agent Heliosense: i'll have to look at it
[10:53]  Agent Heliosense: well we have to wrap up
[10:54]  Agent Heliosense: if you are new
[10:54]  Raskolnikow Roffo: yesh?
[10:54]  Agent Heliosense: create a profile at
[10:54]  Agent Heliosense: http://thetechvirtual.org/createMember
[10:54]  Agent Heliosense: If you don't want to use RL name just enter SL name for both no worries
[10:55]  Ned Easterwood: Well are we set then Agent?
[10:55]  Raskolnikow Roffo: ah yesh i read it in the notecard from them boxes
[10:55]  Second Life: You have left the group 'Space CoLab'.
[10:56]  Ned Easterwood: I will see you all later - this should be fun.
[10:56]  Agent Heliosense: yes ned
[10:56]  Agent Heliosense: show me your space and
[10:56]  Agent Heliosense: all let me know if you have questions
[10:56]  Agent Heliosense: and will get into more detail as we go!
[10:57]  Ned Easterwood: I put out a base
[10:57]  Ned Easterwood: And a kiosk with floating text that says "Ned's space"
[10:57]  Ned Easterwood: If you need more let me know.
[10:58]  Agent Heliosense: ok
[10:58]  Agent Heliosense: i gots to run!
[10:58]  Ned Easterwood: Ok
[10:58]  Agent Heliosense: thanks for coming and
[10:58]  Ned Easterwood: See ya
[10:58]  Agent Heliosense: i'll be around for any QA
[10:58]  Agent Heliosense: join the site http://thetechvirtual.org/createMember
[10:58]  Raskolnikow Roffo: thanks agent and others for the welcome
[10:58]  Raskolnikow Roffo: i will return
[10:59]  Raskolnikow Roffo: have a nice day :)
[10:59]  Agent Heliosense: ty and see you soon
[11:01]  Serene Jewell: thanks for the overview of what you're doing here. I'm checking out your web pages but have to run to a meeting. I will definitely be checking back in here, it looks like you are doing great things. Perhaps I can contribute in the futre.
[11:01]  Serene Jewell: Thanks.
[11:01]  Agent Heliosense: ok serene