[10:00]  Elissa Sands: Hello
[10:00]  Seafore Perl: Meeting open to anyone?
[10:00]  Agent Heliosense: hi elissa
[10:00]  Agent Heliosense: hi seafore
[10:00]  Elissa Sands: Hi Agent
[10:00]  Seafore Perl: Good morning.
[10:00]  Agent Heliosense: yes indeed pls. join
[10:00]  Elissa Sands: ty
[10:00]  Seafore Perl: ok. Hi Elissa.
[10:00]  Elissa Sands: Hi Sea
[10:00]  Agent Heliosense: seafore you've been to our class
[10:01]  Seafore Perl: Yes I have.
[10:01]  Agent Heliosense: Elissa this is The Tech museum of Innovation in San Jose, CA and this is our
[10:01]  Seafore Perl: Enjoy them. There are some talented people that go to them.
[10:01]  Agent Heliosense: virtual world location
[10:01]  Agent Heliosense: http://www.thetechvirtual.org is our url
[10:02]  Agent Heliosense: and today is a really exciting day!
[10:02]  Agent Heliosense: because, our new sim was delivered
[10:02]  Agent Heliosense: it is just to the south of ther
[10:02]  Agent Heliosense: here
[10:02]  Seafore Perl: Have you started working on it yet?
[10:02]  Agent Heliosense: so, we have greatly expanded the area we can use for designing
[10:03]  Agent Heliosense: planning yes
[10:03]  Agent Heliosense: http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/ucantu-projects/dept-of-building-and-grounds/
[10:04]  Agent Heliosense: have done some layout planning, and will probably have something basic going in next few weeks
[10:04]  Seafore Perl: Is it the sim with the mountain? Separated by a narrow water strip?
[10:04]  Agent Heliosense: right, it's one of the default Linden islands
[10:05]  Agent Heliosense: so we will be able to set aside parcels for media, and have many more prims
[10:05]  Seafore Perl: I see. Didn't know if they came out just flat, or a standard beginning terraform.
[10:05]  Agent Heliosense: I've seen both, usually there is a choice of 4 starting islands thought that are not flat
[10:05]  Seafore Perl: Extra prim are always a nice luxury!
[10:06]  Seafore Perl: I wasn't aware of that. Thanks.
[10:06]  Seafore Perl: So you'll be terraforming and the whole works?
[10:06]  Agent Heliosense: Elissa what we do here is provide space for an open source design area where people create museum exhibit models
[10:06]  Elissa Sands: ok
[10:06]  Agent Heliosense: hi ethelred
[10:07]  Agent Heliosense: yes, we'll add as we go, folks here at the museum are planning some building, I'm moslty intrested in the space for
[10:07]  Agent Heliosense: building sicnce we're out of prims here!
[10:07]  Elissa Sands: lol
[10:08]  Agent Heliosense: so if you join the site at http://thetechvirtual.org/createMember
[10:08]  Elissa Sands: prims are the greatest linde invention yet !
[10:08]  Ethelred Weatherwax: hello
[10:08]  Agent Heliosense: then the working group for the sim is http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/ucantu-projects/dept-of-building-and-grounds/
[10:08]  Elissa Sands: Hello Ethelred
[10:08]  Agent Heliosense: hi Stephe!
[10:08]  You have offered friendship to Ethelred Weatherwax
[10:08]  You have offered friendship to Elissa Sands
[10:09]  Stephe Roux: hi, folks
[10:09]  Elissa Sands: Hi Stephe
[10:09]  Agent Heliosense: Ethelred and Stephe welcome, we are just discussing the big news.
[10:09]  Agent Heliosense: The Tech 2 is live on the map!
[10:10]  Agent Heliosense: Sim is in "sandbox mode" for members for the time being until it gets shaped, parceled etc.
[10:10]  Ethelred Weatherwax: I haven't been here for months
[10:10]  Agent Heliosense: Benefit for members!
[10:10]  Agent Heliosense: Ethelred, we've been busy you've come back at a good time
[10:11]  Agent Heliosense: http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/ucantu-projects/dept-of-building-and-grounds/
[10:11]  Agent Heliosense: I've had 2 members contribute things
[10:12]  Agent Heliosense: some assets like a dome and also some suggestions such as a members lounge for discussions
[10:12]  Agent Heliosense: Elissa how did you find our meeting today?
[10:13]  Elissa Sands: in the search under education
[10:13]  Seafore Perl: Received a notice.
[10:14]  Agent Heliosense: great, so we have upcoming exhibitions on "Art-Film-Music-Games"
[10:14]  Agent Heliosense: with a silicon valley focus
[10:14]  Stephe Roux: hi, qion
[10:14]  Agent Heliosense: which will be starting likely in about a month, maybe less
[10:14]  Agent Heliosense: so members will be designing exhibits based around this exhibition
[10:15]  Agent Heliosense: some of the exhibits from the previous "Art-Film-Music-Games" round are in this room
[10:16]  Agent Heliosense: by the time we start that, the new sim will be the primary space for building exhibits, and this sim will be used for more completed exhibits and installations
[10:18]  Agent Heliosense: there will also be a machinima component to this and likely contest, and if you've been here last few weeks
[10:18]  Agent Heliosense: you know that this is all being developed by the curators so
[10:18]  Agent Heliosense: it's a "coming soon" thing but what you can do is
[10:19]  Agent Heliosense: participate in the building and grounds project, join the site, and also sandbox ideas you may have
[10:19]  Agent Heliosense: did you build an exhibit before Ethelred?
[10:20]  Agent Heliosense: hi Qion
[10:20]  Qion Ning: hi.. sorry i'm late
[10:20]  Ethelred Weatherwax: I didn't build one here
[10:20]  Agent Heliosense: no worries its mostly me chatting away
[10:21]  Agent Heliosense: our new sim was delivered so it's an exciting day
[10:21]  Ethelred Weatherwax: I was started to get involved in something here that didn't pan out
[10:21]  Qion Ning: i've read about burning man festival
[10:21]  Qion Ning: pretty exciting
[10:22]  Qion Ning: its about lots of avatars claming a little piece of land.. and building stuff there
[10:22]  Qion Ning: and after a week everything is gon again..
[10:22]  Qion Ning: but its every year in sl
[10:23]  Qion Ning: and something Philip Linden did before he started sl
[10:23]  Seafore Perl: It does sound interesting. Called Burning Life in sl, a virtual recreation of the Burning Man festival that takes place in rl.
[10:23]  Agent Heliosense: right, i think it's gone on each year in sl
[10:23]  Qion Ning: yes its the 6th year
[10:23]  Qion Ning: can give you the link.. it appeard at login
[10:23]  Seafore Perl: Have you done it, Qion?
[10:24]  Qion Ning: just as soo as i can get the explorer started up again
[10:24]  Qion Ning: never don it
[10:24]  Qion Ning: but seems like a big scale tech exhibit thing for me
[10:25]  Agent Heliosense: in a way similar, just that we use focused topics centered around exhibitions
[10:26]  Qion Ning: burninglife.com/
[10:26]  Agent Heliosense: one moment
[10:27]  Qion Ning: ok may be we should focus on this exhebitions here
[10:31]  Qion Ning: its awfully quiet suddenly
[10:31]  Seafore Perl: Noticed that.
[10:32]  Seafore Perl: Agent, you still there?
[10:32]  Agent Heliosense: hi sorry had RL people coming in!
[10:33]  Seafore Perl: Oh, funny how rl interferes with sl!
[10:33]  Agent Heliosense: can you believe it!
[10:33]  Seafore Perl: Or vice versa!
[10:33]  Agent Heliosense: All that eating, walking, cleaning in RL it's so time consuming!
[10:34]  Seafore Perl: Question. Items on table. Are we suppose to take copies of them?
[10:34]  Seafore Perl: It is important to log into rl on occasion.
[10:34]  Agent Heliosense: please do, there is a welcome package with info, an exhibit designers kit with some useful pieces and
[10:34]  Qion Ning: i always forget the password
[10:35]  Agent Heliosense: the dept. of building and grounds is a little kit I thought might be interesteing to use for designing new sim areas
[10:37]  Agent Heliosense: do any of you already make or sell things in sl
[10:37]  Seafore Perl: Make things, buildings, art, terraforming etc.
[10:38]  Agent Heliosense: because I'm working on a way to maybe have a science museum like gift or hobby shop, think Discovery Stores and the like
[10:38]  Qion Ning: yes make and sel
[10:38]  Agent Heliosense: but items contributed would have to be science related , its just an idea at the moment
[10:39]  Ethelred Weatherwax: I have created a museum -- but don't have a gift shop
[10:39]  Agent Heliosense: it's why i've got the building and grounds project going, to get your input, ideas, etc.
[10:40]  Ethelred Weatherwax: I'm working on a new museum
[10:40]  Agent Heliosense: wow, what is it Ethelred?
[10:40]  Ethelred Weatherwax: A local history museum, located at NonProfit Commons
[10:40]  Qion Ning: i could make a the tech pen
[10:40]  Agent Heliosense: hi Oze
[10:41]  Ethelred Weatherwax gave you Neenah Historical Society.
[10:41]  Qion Ning: hi ;)
[10:41]  Seafore Perl: local history? what area based on?
[10:41]  Ethelred Weatherwax gave you Museum Collective, Eduisland 4 (205, 109, 24).
[10:41]  Oze Aichi: hi there
[10:41]  Seafore Perl: Hello, Oze.
[10:41]  Oze Aichi: changing pc. as the frame rate was crawling on another one. just 3.0
[10:42]  Ethelred Weatherwax: I am also working on a cooperative museum
[10:42]  Agent Heliosense: wow that's interesting Ethelred I'd like to stop by after the meeting.
[10:42]  Ethelred Weatherwax: My current museum is the Neenah Historical Society in Wisconsin. We have a special display right now on the Octagon House building fad of the 1850s
[10:43]  Seafore Perl: That's interesting.
[10:43]  Agent Heliosense: I rember it well!
[10:43]  Agent Heliosense: From class that is!
[10:43]  Ethelred Weatherwax: Oh. I thought you were around then!
[10:43]  Agent Heliosense: that sounds great
[10:43]  Agent Heliosense: hehe in my steampunk mode!
[10:44]  Oze Aichi: sorry i've got to go. testing in progress. cya all
[10:44]  Agent Heliosense: ok Oze
[10:44]  Qion Ning: tc oze
[10:44]  Seafore Perl: c ya
[10:44]  Qion Ning: c u soon
[10:44]  Oze Aichi: *bye*
[10:45]  Ethelred Weatherwax: I have to leave now to get some other work done. I've been in SL meetings for the past 3 hours and need to get back to RL (and to a better internet connection!)
[10:45]  Agent Heliosense: ok Ethelred, see you again
[10:45]  Agent Heliosense: i'm checking out your museum next
[10:47]  Agent Heliosense: well we're near 11AM still early somehow.... around the table anyone have any topic to discuss ?
[10:47]  Agent Heliosense: or questions of course!
[10:48]  Agent Heliosense: check out the island to the south it's a big sandbox at the moment so objects will be returned periodically
[10:48]  Seafore Perl: Not at the moment. Think I'll sign up for the group on net you mentioned.
[10:48]  Agent Heliosense: I'd take you there but its just a big open island hehe
[10:48]  Seafore Perl: So island can be used as sandbox for time being?
[10:49]  Agent Heliosense: ok seafore, also, you can use SL name in all fields if you are not interested in using RL name
[10:49]  Agent Heliosense: yes, for our group
[10:49]  Seafore Perl: OK.
[10:49]  Agent Heliosense: items may be returned various times as it's developed
[10:50]  Seafore Perl: I'll think about names. I'm ok with rl names. As artist there is a certain amount of overlap between worlds.
[10:50]  Agent Heliosense: it is also changeable
[10:50]  Qion Ning: i see something about island..
[10:51]  Qion Ning: havent seen it yet
[10:51]  Seafore Perl: Changeable?
[10:51]  Agent Heliosense: on our site, you can change your name or avatar name
[10:51]  Seafore Perl: Oh, ok.
[10:51]  Agent Heliosense: some folks I know don't want to use their RL name that's why i mention
[10:52]  Agent Heliosense: it shouldn't stop anyone from signing up
[10:52]  Seafore Perl: I presumed you didn't mean island, that we could go over there and get our terraforming kicks!
[10:52]  Agent Heliosense: we had winners from contests that only used SL names.
[10:52]  Seafore Perl: I see. I'll think that aspect of it over.
[10:52]  Qion Ning: i unly use sl name
[10:53]  Qion Ning: dont wanna mix it..
[10:53]  Qion Ning: not now at least..
[10:53]  Seafore Perl: Understandable. There's a certain amount of risk in that.
[10:53]  Qion Ning: but it mixes anyway a little bit
[10:54]  Seafore Perl: Difficult not to with human entities at keyboards.
[10:54]  Agent Heliosense: sure, I think it would add well to a designer's resume, for example
[10:54]  Seafore Perl: True. And artist's portfolio.
[10:55]  Agent Heliosense: to be involved with it. We connect to the outside world, making the best matched exhibit designs into "real" exhibits.
[10:55]  Seafore Perl: A very intersting concept.
[10:56]  Seafore Perl: Probably a challenge in replicating some of the concepts into the rl environment.
[10:57]  Agent Heliosense: yes it usually requires some translation
[10:58]  Agent Heliosense: that's why this program is great for beginning or advanced builders alike.
[10:58]  Seafore Perl: Question. When you recreate sl exhibit into rl, do you maintain same size or shrink down a bit (being as how most things in sl are made oversized).
[10:58]  Agent Heliosense: because it's mostly about theexhibit concept
[10:59]  Seafore Perl: Concept is most important element to transport through the membrane between worlds.
[11:00]  Agent Heliosense: it's highly variable Seafore, probably the SL exhibits are about 10% bigger than their measurements
[11:00]  Seafore Perl: Are there some in here that were recreated in sl?
[11:00]  Agent Heliosense: but for example the musical chairs exhibit behind me is in it's own round room in the Tech Museum
[11:00]  Seafore Perl: Sorry, in rl?
[11:01]  Agent Heliosense: yes, musical chairs, and wikisonic, and revisioning San Jose
[11:02]  Agent Heliosense: also, history of midi here, I've taken some photos still working on uploading them
[11:02]  Agent Heliosense: Qion and Seafore I"m going to head out
[11:02]  Seafore Perl: It would be interesting to see their rl counteerparts.
[11:02]  Seafore Perl: OK. Good seeing you Agent. You said about a month before the art-games etc. segment starts?
[11:03]  Agent Heliosense: they'll be posted on http://www.thetechvirtual.org either on the blog or on the gallery
[11:03]  Qion Ning: ok
[11:03]  Agent Heliosense: right, about a month
[11:03]  Seafore Perl: OK. Thanks, Take care.
[11:03]  Qion Ning: have fun
[11:03]  Qion Ning: thx for the meeting
[11:03]  Seafore Perl: Nice meeting you, Qion.
[11:03]  Agent Heliosense: have a great weekend!