Garvie Garzo: sorry i've been so mia
[9:58]  Shakini Parnass: no problem
[9:58]  Ulysse Alexandre: helo Stephe
[9:58]  Garvie Garzo: i've done nothing in sl because mu rl life as gardener has dominated the last 2 weeks
[9:59]  Shakini Parnass: i'm going to be mia myself soon for a meeting!
[9:59]  You: Hi, folks, hi Garvie, long time no see
[9:59]  Garvie Garzo: that';s almost done now, so i'll be back as much as possible as soon as possible
[9:59]  Shakini Parnass: what are you growing?
[9:59]  Garvie Garzo: i know
[9:59]  Garvie Garzo: i have barely logged in for WEEKS
[9:59]  Garvie Garzo: i plant flowers for pubs businesses and a community guerila group
[10:00]  Garvie Garzo: i design and buy and plant and organize and then take care ofthem throughoutthe summer
[10:00]  Shakini Parnass: do community guerillas eat the flowers
[10:00]  You: Bonjour, Ulysse
[10:00]  Garvie Garzo: some do
[10:00]  Garvie Garzo: this commiunity anyway
[10:00]  Garvie Garzo: actually this tyear i'm featuring mostly different kinds ofpeppers in the guerilla space
[10:01]  You: hi, Vince
[10:01]  Ulysse Alexandre: hwllo Vince
[10:01]  Vince Caudron: hi
[10:01]  Shakini Parnass: i saw the most amazing collection of peppers in mexico
[10:01]  Shakini Parnass: hi vince
[10:02]  You: shall we go chill out in the pool as we talk?
[10:02]  Garvie Garzo: ok
[10:02]  Garvie Garzo: where is it, lawn?
[10:02]  Shakini Parnass: si
[10:02]  You: yes, right behind me
[10:03]  Garvie Garzo: lydia cracks me up
[10:03]  You: click on one of the white pose balls and choose sit here
[10:04]  Shakini Parnass: so garvie, i picked up a SACH foot the other day to do a mockup of the RL exhibit of the jaipur foot
[10:04]  Garvie Garzo: cool
[10:05]  Shakini Parnass: SACH stands for solid ankle cushion heel
[10:05]  Garvie Garzo: i haven't even finished the descriptive proposal on that one
[10:05]  Garvie Garzo: yes, it's an amazingly good design kinetically
[10:05]  Shakini Parnass: i got a tour of a prosthetics factory that makes 90% of the world's upper extremity devices
[10:05]  Shakini Parnass: and they are also starting to work on a foot, but it will be a "flex foot" with sensors inside
[10:06]  Garvie Garzo: that's impressive
[10:06]  You: whare is the factory?
[10:06]  You: where
[10:06]  Shakini Parnass: it was, they've been working on it for 2 years
[10:06]  Garvie Garzo: still cheap like the jaipu?r
[10:06]  Shakini Parnass: the factory is in campbell, about 15 minutes away from san jose
[10:06]  Shakini Parnass: i don't know what the price will be
[10:07]  Shakini Parnass: they did say that they work with a lot of medicare/medicaid patients, so they are definitely aware of the need for low-cost devices
[10:07]  Shakini Parnass: apparently they will customize the amount of work they do based on what people can afford
[10:07]  Garvie Garzo: that's a good approach
[10:07]  Shakini Parnass: one of the biggest challenges, is the number of "inputs" to control the devices, particularly for upper extremities
[10:08]  Garvie Garzo: sometimes design schools will build prosthetics for free as seniorprojects
[10:08]  Garvie Garzo: even the artcollege that i was at did that
[10:08]  Shakini Parnass: btw -- is everyone okay with us saving the chat dialog today so we can post it for others who couldn't make it today?
[10:08]  Garvie Garzo: yes
[10:08]  Vince Caudron: yES
[10:08]  Ulysse Alexandre: yes
[10:08]  Shakini Parnass: thanx
[10:08]  You: I went into the real Museum and took some good pictures of the Kickstart Pump and the Lifeline Radio
[10:09]  Lydia Milner is Online
[10:09]  You: nearly got nabbed by the Museum Police
[10:09]  Garvie Garzo: lol
[10:09]  Ulysse Alexandre: lol
[10:09]  Shakini Parnass: i called the folks at kiva and sent them an email to let them know about your project in SL
[10:09]  Shakini Parnass: but haven't heard back yet
[10:09]  Garvie Garzo: super
[10:09]  Garvie Garzo: what was their response???
[10:10]  Garvie Garzo: ok
[10:10]  Shakini Parnass: i would think they'd be very excited...
[10:10]  Garvie Garzo: i'm hopingthat they like the idea.. especially the laterplans
[10:10]  Garvie Garzo: do you think that they have much of a 'feel' for what sl is all about..
[10:10]  Lydia Milner: Hiya sorry I am late
[10:10]  Shakini Parnass: did you know that our global humanitarian this year will be muhammed yunnus?
[10:10]  Shakini Parnass: hi lydia
[10:10]  Lydia Milner: on someone elses pc so had to download :)
[10:10]  You: Hi, Marie, welcome to the pool
[10:11]  Ulysse Alexandre: Hello Lydia :)
[10:11]  Garvie Garzo: ythat is, will they see this as an extension of their lender base?
[10:11]  Garvie Garzo: hey lyfdia
[10:11]  You: *Lydia* - sorry
[10:11]  Garvie Garzo: typo central over here
[10:11]  Lydia Milner: Hey Garvie, long time :)\Hi Stephe
[10:11]  Lydia Milner: Hi shakini
[10:11]  Garvie Garzo: i knowe.. many apologies
[10:11]  Lydia Milner: So, has anyone does any work since last week?
[10:11]  Garvie Garzo: gardening in RL
[10:11]  Lydia Milner: \I havent really
[10:11]  Shakini Parnass: i would think so -- i told them you were working on a way to get linden bucks to real $
[10:11]  Garvie Garzo: ummmmm, looks at floor
[10:12]  Lydia Milner: ah yes, gardening is tie sensitive, esp this time of year
[10:12]  You: Garvie, are those new, patterened stockings
[10:12]  Garvie Garzo: ok, good to that last
[10:12]  Lydia Milner: yeah, I'm skulking in teh back row of class too
[10:12]  Garvie Garzo: mot mew
[10:12]  Shakini Parnass: how are the friday workshops going?
[10:12]  You: or poison ivy from the gardening?
[10:12]  Garvie Garzo: just infrequent
[10:12]  Lydia Milner: lol
[10:12]  Bjorlyn Loon is Offline
[10:12]  Garvie Garzo: i madethe sloucjhy orange socks myself... my first clothing
[10:13]  You: cool
[10:13]  Ulysse Alexandre: I have seen a very good exhibit in SL
[10:13]  Shakini Parnass: which one?
[10:13]  Garvie Garzo: where?
[10:13]  Ulysse Alexandre: I'll give you the lm
[10:14]  Shakini Parnass: can you describe what it was about?
[10:15]  Shakini Parnass: lydia, right before you came, stephe said that he just took some pics of the kickstart pump
[10:15]  Vince Caudron: Somethings just come up in rl, gotta go. see you all later.
[10:15]  Garvie Garzo: ok, bye
[10:15]  Ulysse Alexandre gave you ARCHAEORAMA, Jeju (194, 160, 100).
[10:15]  Shakini Parnass: bye, thanx for coming
[10:15]  You: ty Ulysse
[10:16]  Garvie Garzo: ta
[10:16]  Ulysse Alexandre: This exhibit is about the religion in Ancient Egypt
[10:16]  Lydia Milner: hi, oh good Stephe. I ahve started building the pump, usung the
[10:16]  Lydia Milner: line diagram on their webpage, but it only shows form one angel, more angles woudl be useful
[10:17]  Shakini Parnass: great, i'll definitely check it out later
[10:17]  Lydia Milner: Ih ave tried calling all three organsiatons in RL but no-one anwers the phone lol
[10:17]  Lydia Milner: answerphns
[10:17]  Lydia Milner: I dedcided to do that irritating thing of just hanging up
[10:17]  Shakini Parnass: i have been playing phonetag with martin at kickstart
[10:17]  Lydia Milner: its a lot to exlpain in a phn msg :)
[10:17]  Garvie Garzo: any people listed as pr on their websites maybe?
[10:18]  Lydia Milner: oh ok, I tihnk he's who I tried too, his mailbox was full on his phn
[10:18]  Shakini Parnass: i have already sent an email and left him some messages as well, so maybe we shouldnt be too redundant
[10:18]  Lydia Milner: no, I was gonna keep trying
[10:18]  Shakini Parnass: since i need to talk with him anyways, maybe you could let me know what you need?
[10:18]  Lydia Milner: some fo the info and resrouces I want are on htier webpages so iu was gonna keep trying
[10:19]  Lydia Milner: sure, I will need to review the webpage and send you a list, that woudl be great
[10:19]  Shakini Parnass: do you have his email address?
[10:19]  Garvie Garzo: do any ofthe orgs have representatives in CA?.. since we're all about to be there being social?
[10:19]  Lydia Milner: I have some time off now so I am hoping to do more work
[10:19]  Lydia Milner: honest :)
[10:19]  Garvie Garzo: lol
[10:19]  Shakini Parnass: yes, coincidentally both kickstart and kiva are based in SF
[10:19]  Garvie Garzo: garvie looks at flooragain
[10:20]  Garvie Garzo: ok, then maybe we can just MEET them
[10:20]  Lydia Milner: (Hey. garvie, lets set off the fire alarm, then no-onw will know we havent done our homework :))
[10:20]  Garvie Garzo: they might be interested in the opening
[10:20]  Garvie Garzo: lol
[10:20]  Lydia Milner: out of the lovely schedule you guys have I have about 3 hrs spare on 3rd June then I fly back out again
[10:20]  Garvie Garzo: that sucks
[10:20]  Lydia Milner: so Iwill prob stick to email etc
[10:21]  Shakini Parnass: where are you flying off to on june 3?
[10:21]  Garvie Garzo: i have one free day afterit's all over.. and will, SCHMOOZE should the opportunity present itself
[10:21]  Shakini Parnass: are you coming out for the opening?
[10:21]  Lydia Milner: Shakini, me?
[10:21]  Shakini Parnass: yes
[10:22]  Lydia Milner: i arrive on 3rd at lunchtime and leave on 4th at 10pm
[10:22]  Lydia Milner: I dont want ot be away from my duahger for too long
[10:22]  Shakini Parnass: you'll barely be over your jetlag!
[10:22]  Lydia Milner: never been away from her before :)
[10:22]  Lydia Milner: yeah, I'm hoping it will be so quick my body wont notice :)
[10:22]  Garvie Garzo: yeah, first time is hard
[10:22]  Garvie Garzo: it'll be worse for you than her tho
[10:22]  Draxtor Despres is Online
[10:22]  Lydia Milner: yeah, I'm a big wuss
[10:22]  Lydia Milner: she wont notice :)
[10:23]  You: sorry, afk
[10:23]  Garvie Garzo: oh no, she'll notice
[10:23]  You: back now
[10:23]  Ulysse Alexandre: it's better East-West then West-East
[10:23]  Shakini Parnass: so, i have a meeting with a set designer for the RL exhibit and have to go. i won't be avialable for the 3rd either but will join you all on the 10th.
[10:23]  Garvie Garzo: but she won;'t have the attenbtion span yet to worry orfret much
[10:23]  Shakini Parnass: have a great time at the opening!!
[10:23]  Lydia Milner: thanks shainiki, have un in Europe :)
[10:23]  Shakini Parnass: bye -- stephe is going to be here for the remainder
[10:23]  Lydia Milner: any news on how the market layout thingy is coming?
[10:23]  Garvie Garzo: we'll make something soon, i swear
[10:24]  Lydia Milner: I think last week Shakini said that there are a few ddesigns in teh offing
[10:24]  Lydia Milner: lol
[10:24]  Shakini Parnass: thanks -- look forward to seeing what happens over the next few weeks.
[10:24]  Shakini Parnass is Offline
[10:24]  Lydia Milner: Sunday night is homework night right? :)
[10:24]  You: So, Lydia I got some pics of the Kickstart pump
[10:24]  Lydia Milner: oh great!
[10:24]  Garvie Garzo: actually i really won't get much done until AFTERcalifornia
[10:24]  Lydia Milner: i have started building it
[10:25]  You: we have a real one in the Museum
[10:25]  Lydia Milner: but only got one angle
[10:25]  Garvie Garzo: do you need an animation for that?
[10:25]  Garvie Garzo: orare you just making a model ofthe pump?
[10:25]  Lydia Milner: ah yes of course, I can bunk off hten and not build until i have see nit in real life hee hee
[10:25]  Lydia Milner: no i'm doing an anim also
[10:25]  You: it really needs a scriot and an animation, I should think
[10:25]  Lydia Milner: thats one of ht reasons I picked kickstart
[10:26]  Garvie Garzo: it's definitely a complicated idea to pull off
[10:26]  Garvie Garzo: good one tho
[10:26]  You: I'll send you thie pics
[10:26]  Lydia Milner: thats great thanks Stephe
[10:27]  Lydia Milner: fgoquest the idea is coming together, need to get hold of them though
[10:27]  Lydia Milner: and the glasses again I cchose for the anims so that will be fun
[10:27]  Garvie Garzo: omg three?
[10:27]  Lydia Milner: yes
[10:27]  Garvie Garzo: lol
[10:27]  You: wow
[10:27]  Lydia Milner: i predict rainy summ eron England :)
[10:28]  Lydia Milner: or, i could spend the time improving my typing,
[10:28]  Lydia Milner: but, naah
[10:28]  Ulysse Alexandre: it is an easy guess :)
[10:28]  Garvie Garzo: we all could
[10:28]  Lydia Milner: lol
[10:28]  Garvie Garzo: i still need a keyboard with working space bar
[10:28]  You: not sure how the fogquest works, but weve got lots of fog in San Francisco where I live
[10:28]  Lydia Milner: have yous tried ahking it?
[10:28]  Lydia Milner: shaking
[10:28]  Lydia Milner: or poking it with a wooden nail file?
[10:28]  Garvie Garzo: it's really just a collection device
[10:28]  Garvie Garzo: very simple
[10:28]  Garvie Garzo: it's a survial technique
[10:28]  You: youcouldjusttrywritinglikethis
[10:29]  Garvie Garzo: spread plasticor net and collect dew and foge
[10:29]  Lydia Milner: lol, I wonder how long that could go and still make sense?
[10:29]  Lydia Milner: how is kiva coming Garvie?
[10:30]  Garvie Garzo: idowritelikethatallthetimenow..worstisit'sLOOKSlikehowithinkanywaywithafewextraxcgharactersthroeninaswell
[10:30]  Lydia Milner: lol
[10:30]  Garvie Garzo: haven't domne a thing yet
[10:30]  Ulysse Alexandre: quite hard to decipher Garvie
[10:30]  Lydia Milner: lol
[10:31]  Lydia Milner: so we're all at the sam epalace then
[10:31]  Lydia Milner: well, I ahvce three sheets of lfip chart with drawings on them
[10:31]  Garvie Garzo: but the idea is crystal clear, so it's just a matter of commiting to a couple days building and scropting and installing
[10:31]  Lydia Milner: thats how i work
[10:31]  Garvie Garzo: the foot is more of a probelm since i can't get the impact of landmines out of my head...
[10:31]  Garvie Garzo: but in reality the vast majority are used for polio victims
[10:32]  Lydia Milner: so are you still keeping the landmine idea in?
[10:32]  Garvie Garzo: yes, i think so...
[10:33]  Garvie Garzo: i want to make the approach to the hut/exhibit sort of an obstacle course
[10:33]  Garvie Garzo: and then have the foot inside as a sort of icon
[10:33]  Garvie Garzo: i was thinking floor sensors that will trigger sounds and large particles with pictures...
[10:34]  You: do they have the Jaipur foot in places like Sri Lanka where they have landmines
[10:34]  You: ?
[10:34]  Garvie Garzo: so the landmine might end up being a sort of metaphorical device rather than a part ofthe problem
[10:34]  Garvie Garzo: yes
[10:34]  Lydia Milner: and would that work the sam ein an RL version? the obstalce course?
[10:34]  Garvie Garzo: it could
[10:35]  Garvie Garzo: it would depend on how 'upsetting' you wanted to make it
[10:35]  Ulysse Alexandre: it is more easy to do particle in SL then in RL
[10:35]  Garvie Garzo: so say the obstacle course could take the form of something relatively bengn, like a pile of homemde critches..
[10:36]  Lydia Milner: yes, Ulysse, I was thinking of visitors with disability or very small children etc and how they woudl cope with it?
[10:36]  Garvie Garzo: or it could go as afr as fliskering images of victims and sounds of explosions and screans
[10:36]  Garvie Garzo: yes
[10:36]  Garvie Garzo: particles wouldn't work in rl.. could be flickering video images
[10:37]  Ulysse Alexandre: on large screen
[10:37]  Ulysse Alexandre: yes it could be
[10:37]  Lydia Milner: Stephe, has something weird hapended to the grass here? It looks odd
[10:37]  Garvie Garzo: the point is to have the outside ofthe hut problematic to make it obvious how good a solution is available inside the hut
[10:38]  Lydia Milner: yes
[10:38]  Garvie Garzo: i see people struggling to GET to this since it IS fundamentally a mobility problem that hasto be solved
[10:38]  Ulysse Alexandre: with is the size of a hut?
[10:38]  Lydia Milner: Stephe has a loayout for the exhibt been decided yet?
[10:38]  Garvie Garzo: smallish
[10:38]  You: maybe have folks try waling with a prosthesis?
[10:39]  Garvie Garzo: a little biggerthan a confession booth,... maybe a very small examination style room
[10:39]  You: Yse, Shakini has a floor plan, I think
[10:39]  Garvie Garzo: i also like a long steep flight ofsteps that cannot be climbed...
[10:39]  Lydia Milner: is she putting that on the web?
[10:39]  Garvie Garzo: with the foot at the top.. an ICONIC representation
[10:39]  You: good idea, I'll ask her
[10:39]  Lydia Milner: thanks
[10:39]  Lydia Milner: that sounds interseting
[10:39]  You: she's meeting with her set designer right now
[10:40]  Lydia Milner: oh good
[10:41]  You: Maybe post both the floor plan and the set design sketcheson the wall in Parkside
[10:41]  Garvie Garzo: that would be really handy
[10:41]  Lydia Milner: thats a nice idea :)
[10:41]  Ulysse Alexandre: yes
[10:41]  Garvie Garzo: it would help get us all on the same page
[10:41]  Garvie Garzo: unlike last time..
[10:41]  You: lol
[10:42]  You: Ulysse, have you thought of doing an exhibit for UcanTu?
[10:42]  Ulysse Alexandre: not yet, but I think hard :)
[10:42]  Garvie Garzo: :)
[10:43]  Garvie Garzo: did you look at the possible projects yet?
[10:43]  Lydia Milner: :) it's good fun!
[10:43]  You: did you check out the possible topics at http://thetechvirtual.org/project/ucantu ?
[10:43]  Ulysse Alexandre: I have the project to rebuild a Roman Villa
[10:43]  Garvie Garzo: it really is fun.. and it forces you to learn new skills fasterthan you would without a direction
[10:43]  Lydia Milner: oh that sounds interesting!
[10:44]  Garvie Garzo: i was only 5 weeks old when i started musical chairs..
[10:44]  Garvie Garzo: i hadnever even built a chair
[10:44]  Draxtor Despres is Offline
[10:44]  You: wow, you learned fast!
[10:44]  Garvie Garzo: yup
[10:44]  Garvie Garzo: by HIDING from avi for 3 weeks
[10:45]  You: lol
[10:45]  Draxtor Despres is Online
[10:45]  Garvie Garzo: that clay pot vegetable keeper might be right up youralley thenv
[10:46]  Garvie Garzo: it's another brilliantly simple solution to a big problem
[10:46]  You: Sadly, Avi is going to be leaving next month
[10:46]  Garvie Garzo: omg
[10:46]  Garvie Garzo: really leaving..
[10:46]  Garvie Garzo: or just here?
[10:46]  You: leaving the Tech
[10:46]  Lydia Milner: oh gosh, why?
[10:46]  You: sad :-(
[10:46]  Garvie Garzo: yeah, seems odd
[10:46]  Garvie Garzo: better job?
[10:47]  Ulysse Alexandre: as she other project?
[10:47]  Garvie Garzo: she seesms committed to museums
[10:47]  You: not yet, but I'm sure there will be. She's been working too hard too long to get AFM done, and I think she's burned out
[10:48]  Ulysse Alexandre: oh!
[10:48]  Garvie Garzo: sucks
[10:48]  Lydia Milner: oh gosh, thats doesnt sound too good
[10:48]  Garvie Garzo: maybe a leave ora vacation is better then?
[10:48]  Lydia Milner: are one of you guys replacing her?
[10:48]  You: she'll be here until 6/16
[10:48]  Garvie Garzo: i hope she stays in museums in sl
[10:48]  Lydia Milner: yes
[10:49]  Garvie Garzo: i have a feeling she's already madea big impact and could go much farther
[10:49]  You: well, besides me we are getting a new guy next month
[10:49]  You: with a lot of SL experience
[10:49]  Garvie Garzo: she's so good at getting people working and interested
[10:49]  Lydia Milner: can yout ell us who he is?
[10:49]  Garvie Garzo: lol
[10:49]  Garvie Garzo: is he cute eg?
[10:49]  Garvie Garzo: single?
[10:50]  You: he's Italian, from Stanford, anamed Mateus
[10:50]  Garvie Garzo: that works
[10:50]  Garvie Garzo: anything stanford is fine :)
[10:50]  You: Matheus
[10:50]  Lydia Milner: ah hes was here beofre
[10:50]  Lydia Milner: at mtgs
[10:50]  You: that's aboutl all I know ;-)
[10:51]  You: yes, I think he was, a while ago
[10:51]  Lydia Milner: so we cant squuezze any nre out of you then?
[10:51]  You: he'll be the new Art, Film & Musci curator
[10:51]  Garvie Garzo: men..
[10:51]  Garvie Garzo: ok
[10:52]  Lydia Milner: bbbhnuu87u89jun8mnnhhbnbnbbnbb bbg nn
[10:52]  Garvie Garzo: wow, i can't BUHlieve that avi is leaving
[10:52]  Draxtor Despres is Offline
[10:52]  Lydia Milner: amelia ia helping today sorry about that
[10:52]  Garvie Garzo: yes, i thought
[10:52]  You: I thiought maybe that was the sound of crying
[10:52]  Garvie Garzo: lol
[10:52]  Lydia Milner: lol
[10:53]  Lydia Milner: it is very diapointing
[10:53]  Lydia Milner: shestarted soemthung really good here
[10:53]  Draxtor Despres is Online
[10:53]  You: I agree, but we'll try to keep the flame going ...
[10:53]  Lydia Milner: jjjjjjjbgggbbgggggggggguuuyuuuyuyuyuu88i7887
[10:54]  Garvie Garzo: i think having to coordinate and then switch to actual building was maybe a bit much
[10:54]  Garvie Garzo: is the tech understaffed stephe?
[10:54]  Lydia Milner: ulesse, amelai ia my 2 yrs old frequently s itting on my lap
[10:54]  Garvie Garzo: or is avi one ofthose i'll do it myself people?u
[10:54]  You: well, I guess we need to hire a lot more folks, so yes
[10:54]  Lydia Milner: what is the sl staff strucutre with you guys?
[10:54]  Lydia Milner: I lustve been owkring in local ggt too loing :)
[10:55]  Lydia Milner: fr asking that
[10:55]  You: right now it's jst me and Shikini
[10:56]  You: ti Matheus arrives
[10:56]  Lydia Milner: i was just exlplainging tihs to a fried who is a phsychiatrist, talkin abot futture of virtual worlds etc
[10:56]  You: hi, Helenys, come join us
[10:56]  Lydia Milner: and yuour fav volutneer :)
[10:56]  Ulysse Alexandre: hello Helenys
[10:56]  Helenys Khandr: Hey !
[10:56]  Lydia Milner: hi helenys :)
[10:56]  You: you can sit on one of the white pose balls
[10:56]  Helenys Khandr: But I'm french and my english is not verygood
[10:56]  Garvie Garzo: won't matterat all
[10:57]  Garvie Garzo: as long as you can typo
[10:57]  Garvie Garzo: we;ll figure it out
[10:57]  Ulysse Alexandre: je parle français également :)
[10:57]  Helenys Khandr: cool !
[10:57]  You: Bonjour, joignez-nous!
[10:57]  Helenys Khandr: yes! super !
[10:57]  Helenys Khandr: Je me promenais, (j'en avais marre de tourner en rond), et j'ai attéri ici
[10:57]  Helenys Khandr: Que faites vous, vous ?
[10:57]  Lydia Milner: we are talking about building exhbits here for the
[10:57]  You: So, Helenys, we're talking about the next exhibit at
[10:58]  Lydia Milner: ucantu project
[10:58]  You: the Tech, called UcanTu
[10:58]  Helenys Khandr: ok
[10:58]  Lydia Milner: have you seen the webpage?
[10:58]  Helenys Khandr accepted your inventory offer.
[10:58]  Helenys Khandr: (wow, ça va être dûr de parler correctement anglais)
[10:58]  Garvie Garzo: wow, born TWO days ago.. that's impressive
[10:59]  Helenys Khandr: Well
[11:00]  Helenys Khandr: Hum...
[11:00]  Draxtor Despres is Offline
[11:00]  Garvie Garzo: are you interested in building helenys?
[11:00]  You: the webpage is http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/ucantu
[11:00]  Helenys Khandr: Euh... un peu(?)
[11:00]  Garvie Garzo: lol
[11:00]  Helenys Khandr: :D
[11:00]  Garvie Garzo: it takes a while
[11:00]  Lydia Milner: i do a building class here on thursdays aimed at beginners
[11:00]  Helenys Khandr: je ne me sens pas vraiment à ma place, là
[11:00]  Helenys Khandr: (oh, congratulations !)
[11:00]  Garvie Garzo: why?
[11:00]  You: ou ca?
[11:01]  Helenys Khandr: ici
[11:01]  Garvie Garzo: ah
[11:01]  You: en Segonde Vie?
[11:01]  Helenys Khandr: Je ne suis là que depuis très peu de temps
[11:01]  You: Seconde
[11:01]  Helenys Khandr: Non, ici, avec vous Vous parlez anglais !
[11:01]  Ulysse Alexandre: il faut un temps d'adaptation :)
[11:01]  Garvie Garzo: :)
[11:01]  Garvie Garzo: so farso good
[11:01]  Garvie Garzo: there are tranlators
[11:02]  Helenys Khandr: Et mon anglais n'est pas terrible, je n'ai aps confiance en moi dans ce domaine, alors je n'ose aps trop au cas ou je dirai n'importe quoi...
[11:02]  Garvie Garzo: and a lot of people just muddle through
[11:02]  Garvie Garzo: no, you'll gain confidence
[11:02]  Helenys Khandr: :)
[11:02]  Garvie Garzo: i can't respond in french, sorry
[11:02]  Garvie Garzo: pathetic for a canadian really
[11:02]  Helenys Khandr: pas grafve (:D)
[11:03]  Lydia Milner: everyone starts knowing nothing
[11:03]  Helenys Khandr: :)
[11:03]  Lydia Milner: like real life :)
[11:03]  Helenys Khandr: Yes, I know
[11:03]  Draxtor Despres is Online
[11:03]  You: we'll forgive you your gaffes, just as we ask you to forgive ours ;-)
[11:03]  Ulysse Alexandre: il faut essayer en tous les cas
[11:03]  Helenys Khandr: :D
[11:03]  Helenys Khandr: Oui, c'est sûr
[11:03]  Helenys Khandr: mais je ne voudrai pas... je n'aime pas faire ds erreurs et paraitre bête
[11:03]  Garvie Garzo: cas???
[11:03]  Helenys Khandr: What ?
[11:04]  Ulysse Alexandre: in any case
[11:04]  Helenys Khandr: Yes
[11:04]  You: Helenys, did you see the International Museum Day celebration here last week?
[11:04]  Helenys Khandr: Euh, no
[11:04]  Ulysse Alexandre: yes
[11:04]  Garvie Garzo: she was just born day before yesterday
[11:04]  Helenys Khandr: yes...:)
[11:04]  Lydia Milner: you would not appear stupid Helenys :)
[11:04]  Helenys Khandr accepted your inventory offer.
[11:05]  Helenys Khandr: ... I hope
[11:05]  You: oh, Yes, I forgot you weren't born yet
[11:05]  Helenys Khandr: :D
[11:05]  Ulysse Alexandre: pourquoi es-tu venue jusqu'ici Helenys
[11:05]  Ulysse Alexandre: ?
[11:05]  Ulysse Alexandre: as-tu un projet?
[11:06]  Ulysse Alexandre: une exposition à faire?
[11:06]  Helenys Khandr: Parce que j'étais dans Gaïa, et je voulais me promener, découvrir des paysages, rencontrer des gens, sauf que Gaîa n'est pas immanse (area 51...) donc je suis allée plus loin.
[11:06]  Helenys Khandr: Voilà, c'est tout .
[11:07]  Garvie Garzo: is therean area 51 near here?
[11:07]  Ulysse Alexandre: Gaïa c'est l'espace de découverte pour les francophones
[11:07]  Helenys Khandr: Oui
[11:07]  Helenys Khandr accepted your inventory offer.
[11:07]  Garvie Garzo: ah
[11:07]  Helenys Khandr: D'ailleurs, ce qui m'a gêné tout de suite c'est que tout le monde est bronzé !
[11:07]  Helenys Khandr: moi je suis toute pâle, les autres pensaient que jj'étais malade.
[11:07]  Garvie Garzo: lol
[11:08]  Ulysse Alexandre: Comment as-tu dàcouvert TheTech Museum Helenys?
[11:08]  You: Helenys, je t-ai donne une note sur le Tech. Faut que je le traduise en francais un de ces 4 matins
[11:08]  Helenys Khandr: mais non, je suis juste comme ça en vrai.
[11:08]  Garvie Garzo: yes, a tan is good
[11:08]  Garvie Garzo: here you BUY them
[11:09]  Helenys Khandr: Le "...Museum" ? hum eh bien je trainais juste dans les parrages, j'ai regardé la carte, j'ai choisi un endroit au hasard, et puis jai cliqué >.<
[11:09]  Ulysse Alexandre: mdr
[11:09]  Ulysse Alexandre: mdr=lol in french
[11:09]  Helenys Khandr: ^^
[11:09]  Lydia Milner: ha ha
[11:09]  Helenys Khandr: Pourquoi "Ulysse" comme nom ?
[11:10]  Lydia Milner: ok guys, I have to go.
[11:10]  Helenys Khandr: Oh
[11:10]  Ulysse Alexandre: Je suis archéologue dans RL
[11:10]  Helenys Khandr: Et ?
[11:10]  Ulysse Alexandre: et j'adorre la culture grecque
[11:10]  Helenys Khandr: oh
[11:10]  Garvie Garzo: yes, i don't see the connection eaither :)
[11:10]  Helenys Khandr: Interessant
[11:10]  Garvie Garzo: ah
[11:10]  You: Lydia, I \'ll teach a class tomorrow @ 11. Building again.
[11:10]  Helenys Khandr: J'étudie Ulysse en ce moment.
[11:11]  Helenys Khandr: :)
[11:11]  Helenys Khandr: Bon, eh bien je crois que je vais aller faire un tour, voir d'autres paysages. Vous me pardonnez ?
[11:11]  Ulysse Alexandre: Ulysse est un grand voyageur, un découvreur de nouveaux mondes...
[11:11]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky is Online
[11:11]  You: Joyce or Homer?
[11:11]  Helenys Khandr: (oui, je sais^^)
[11:11]  Lydia Milner: thanks sTephe, aimied at beigniners or exp or anyone?
[11:11]  Ulysse Alexandre: Homer
[11:11]  Helenys Khandr: Homere.
[11:12]  You: beginners like me ;-)
[11:12]  Helenys Khandr: So, I'll back ! One day.
[11:12]  Helenys Khandr: Bye !
[11:12]  Garvie Garzo: good
[11:12]  Lydia Milner: bye Helenys :)
[11:12]  Garvie Garzo: nice meeting you
[11:12]  You: bye Henenys
[11:12]  Ulysse Alexandre: Bye
[11:12]  Lydia Milner: ok, I'll post that
[11:13]  Lydia Milner: that'll be two classes, good
[11:13]  Garvie Garzo: sahe's getting around amazingly well
[11:13]  Garvie Garzo: i could barely walk for the first 3 days
[11:13]  You: so let's call it a wrap.
[11:13]  Lydia Milner: yes
[11:13]  You: I still walk into walls
[11:13]  Garvie Garzo: lol
[11:13]  Garvie Garzo: i do that in rl still
[11:13]  Garvie Garzo: and doodrs tables, etcetc
[11:13]  Ulysse Alexandre: lol
[11:13]  Lydia Milner: Stephe, let me know if there is anything else you want me to do as volunteer :)
[11:13]  You: lol
[11:13]  You: mdr
[11:14]  Lydia Milner: i used t get scared when I fell, like i was really falling
[11:14]  You: we had a lady call b/c she wanted a tour of the museum on Sat.
[11:14]  Lydia Milner: now i jump off the skubox for fun lol
[11:14]  Garvie Garzo: me too
[11:14]  You: skubox
[11:15]  You: ?
[11:15]  Lydia Milner: yes, sara used to do that I tihnk, but I ahve not
[11:15]  Lydia Milner: sorry, skybox,
[11:15]  Garvie Garzo: first time i flew i thought shit, i wonder ifavatars can be kiilled or broken
[11:15]  Garvie Garzo: then we crashed into a building
[11:15]  Lydia Milner: every time I type you have to take at least 5% of leters and swap them for one of the other 25 lol
[11:15]  You: lol
[11:15]  Lydia Milner: lol and you found out the answer was no
[11:15]  Lydia Milner: lol
[11:15]  Lydia Milner: i love the way you struggle up when you fall hee hee
[11:15]  You: Ulysse, what does mdr stand for ? ___ de rire?
[11:16]  Ulysse Alexandre: mort de rire
[11:16]  You: voila!
[11:16]  Garvie Garzo: doesn't sound funny
[11:16]  Ulysse Alexandre: no
[11:16]  Lydia Milner: ah i'm glasd you exlplained that, at first i thought you meant merde
[11:16]  Garvie Garzo: sounds dire even deadkly serious
[11:16]  Lydia Milner: then i realise dthe 'r' was in the wrong place :)
[11:16]  Garvie Garzo: yeah, me too.. short for merde
[11:17]  Lydia Milner: gosh how do we think!
[11:17]  Lydia Milner: terrible!
[11:17]  You: laughing is a serious matter!
[11:17]  Ulysse Alexandre: it is like lmao
[11:17]  Garvie Garzo: excellent point
[11:17]  Lydia Milner: Stephe, about the lady and saturday... doy ou want to meail me?
[11:18]  You: well, I think she came last Sat. I guess just change the sign
[11:18]  Lydia Milner: ?? what sign?
[11:18]  You: when you have time to give tours, if you do
[11:18]  Lydia Milner: Sara was gonna emakl me some info but didnt
[11:19]  Lydia Milner: so if your sitting there thinking 'will she EVER do that' it could be I dont know lol
[11:19]  You: I'm not sure what sign, but I'll ask Avi
[11:19]  Lydia Milner: great, thanks
[11:19]  Lydia Milner: and tell her she's gonna be floored with big goodbye hugs next week :)
[11:20]  You: absolutely
[11:20]  Lydia Milner: Bye Guys
[11:20]  Lydia Milner: see you soon :)
[11:20]  Ulysse Alexandre: bye Lydia
[11:20]  You: bye ladies, bye Ulysse
[11:20]  Garvie Garzo: bye
[11:20]  Garvie Garzo: all
[11:21]  Garvie Garzo: off to whateverland
[11:21]  Ulysse Alexandre: bye Stephe and arvie :)
[11:21]  Lydia Milner: Bye, May your Mays be sunny and brght :)
[11:21]  Ulysse Alexandre: Garvie .)
[11:21]  Lydia Milner: see y'all soon
[11:21]  Garvie Garzo: lydia has anyone done anything for the first deadline on ucantu?
[11:21]  Lydia Milner: oh, no. I tihk they have changed it sos that it will be a product review session/ brainstoriming, kind of thing as we have done NOTHING!
[11:22]  Garvie Garzo: cool
[11:22]  Lydia Milner: shakini politely described it as more of a dealdine for them than us :)
[11:22]  Garvie Garzo: itcame so fast on top ofthe other one
[11:22]  Garvie Garzo: and now everyone is redying for california
[11:22]  Lydia Milner: yes, for me too, and I have been oona course in RL so screwed for spare time, darn assignments!
[11:22]  Garvie Garzo: and then there was all the machinima
[11:22]  Garvie Garzo: i didn't do laundry for morethan 2 months
[11:22]  Garvie Garzo: i hadto catcxh up on life
[11:22]  Ulysse Alexandre: oups
[11:23]  Garvie Garzo: but i hope that shakini isn't discouraged by outr nonperformance
[11:23]  Lydia Milner: gosh id ot hat soooo often, and Helenys didnt want to look stupid lol
[11:23]  Lydia Milner: no i think everyone realises that this DOES take a lot fo time and effort and creativity, and we all have RL's to deal with too
[11:23]  Lydia Milner: so breathers are essential, ying and yang it
[11:24]  Garvie Garzo: breather is a good way to put it
[11:24]  Lydia Milner: lol i have been SO lucky with timings and things. I was booked onthis course way before the Tech stuff started for me, and it all gelled so nicely, ish, a few weeks out and I would ve been totally done for
[11:25]  You: sorry, zI was copying the chat to post. Yes, I think the June 1 judging time is toast
[11:25]  Garvie Garzo: cool
[11:25]  Garvie Garzo: it was all working for me until garden time
[11:25]  Lydia Milner: ha haha
[11:25]  Garvie Garzo: but i'm mostly done
[11:25]  Garvie Garzo: never did paint the bedroom tho
[11:25]  Lydia Milner: i am now on leave form my RL job, but still helping my husnband with his work, being mum,la nd volunterring hrer
[11:26]  You: that's not official;-) but if there's nothing to judge yet ...
[11:26]  Lydia Milner: so time is better, but not a desert island - but I wouldnt want that, really :)
[11:26]  Garvie Garzo: i'm surethat after california and bouncing ideas in person, we will all come back raring to go
[11:26]  Lydia Milner: yes thats a good point
[11:26]  Lydia Milner: is hte final deadline for ucantu set in stone Stephe?
[11:27]  You: that's a question for Shakini
[11:27]  Garvie Garzo: have you guys thought of trying a classified ad?
[11:27]  Lydia Milner: if the same ppl are invcolced in Ucantu as AFM then
[11:27]  Lydia Milner: we will run into our own resrouce issues
[11:27]  Garvie Garzo: yes
[11:27]  Lydia Milner: yes, shame she's not here
[11:27]  Garvie Garzo: we need blood
[11:27]  Lydia Milner: she will be in Surpoe next week yes?
[11:27]  Lydia Milner: ugh!
[11:27]  Lydia Milner: Europe
[11:27]  Garvie Garzo: lol
[11:28]  Garvie Garzo: even i wasn't gettingthat one
[11:28]  Lydia Milner: even ic oudlnt work out what that was and I typed it
[11:28]  Lydia Milner: lol
[11:28]  You: wow, I like Surpoe
[11:28]  Garvie Garzo: me too, so exotic
[11:28]  Lydia Milner: its very sunny in Surpoe :)
[11:28]  Garvie Garzo: yes, until rainy season
[11:28]  You: slurping up the sun
[11:28]  Lydia Milner: hmm, sounds like a medication
[11:28]  Lydia Milner: ha ha
[11:29]  Ulysse Alexandre: Where is Surpoe ?
[11:29]  Garvie Garzo: lol
[11:29]  Garvie Garzo: near the dardenelles
[11:29]  Lydia Milner: lol
[11:29]  You: Yes we do need new blood. We're working on it.
[11:29]  Garvie Garzo: maybe a classified?
[11:29]  You: classified in SL?
[11:29]  Lydia Milner: how about a museum mag in RL?
[11:29]  You: or RL?
[11:30]  Garvie Garzo: i hate how groups work.. that ifyou want to announce something no matter what, you are immediately derrided asa spammer
[11:30]  Garvie Garzo: yes, callsified in sl
[11:30]  You: cool. Where?
[11:30]  Garvie Garzo: click on your profile under classified
[11:31]  You: k
[11:31]  Lydia Milner: is stys on your profile STephe so you may want to do it as Janus
[11:31]  Garvie Garzo: but read some classifieds first
[11:31]  Garvie Garzo: maybe the help wanted ads
[11:31]  Lydia Milner: key worods are important
[11:31]  Lydia Milner: words
[11:31]  Garvie Garzo: orart opportunities
[11:31]  Garvie Garzo: yes, key words are the whole deal
[11:31]  Lydia Milner: then they come up in search, when ppl search ALL or CLASSIFIEDS
[11:31]  Garvie Garzo: museum, builders, wanted, fun, interactive, science
[11:32]  Garvie Garzo: maybe hot hot sex
[11:32]  Lydia Milner: classifieds can be grouped e.g. education
[11:32]  You: lol
[11:32]  Lydia Milner: lol I wouldnt use the word builder, you want word that can only be for this or something similar
[11:32]  Garvie Garzo: ok
[11:32]  Garvie Garzo: exhibit
[11:32]  Ulysse Alexandre: museum
[11:32]  Lydia Milner: look at some other sl museums or science places and see what their classifieds are
[11:32]  Lydia Milner: or best bet search calssifieds and see what you find, then you know your competiton
[11:33]  Garvie Garzo: yes, i have been to almost every other thing called a museum
[11:33]  Garvie Garzo: most are small private affairs
[11:33]  Garvie Garzo: you really are fairly unique with the open source design concept..
[11:33]  You: I was thinking of a poster: CREATIVE AND TALENTED, NEEDING TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY -- the Tech Needs You!
[11:34]  Garvie Garzo: we just need some way oftelling people that we are open for business.. so to speak
[11:34]  Garvie Garzo: yes, that's good
[11:34]  Lydia Milner: i tihnk you guys coudl do with an SL expced Pr firm
[11:34]  Garvie Garzo: just eager to join would be plenty at this point
[11:34]  Garvie Garzo: that's an idea too
[11:34]  Lydia Milner: to do a blast program of mktg in SL and RL, targeted at relevent ppl in RL and anyone intestered in SL
[11:35]  Lydia Milner: otehrwise you would miss the likes or Garvie and me :)
[11:35]  Lydia Milner: if you onyl targeted museum ppl in SL
[11:35]  Garvie Garzo: lol
[11:35]  Garvie Garzo: excellent point
[11:35]  You: wouldn't want to do that!
[11:35]  Garvie Garzo: i did try to get OUT ofthis at first
[11:35]  Lydia Milner: and what would S life be like wihtout us huh?:)
[11:35]  You: dullsville
[11:35]  Garvie Garzo: it was the word brainstormingthat got me here in the first place, for what it's worth
[11:35]  Lydia Milner: :)
[11:36]  Lydia Milner: thats good feedback there!
[11:36]  You: cool
[11:36]  Ulysse Alexandre: we must draft artist too
[11:36]  Garvie Garzo: maybe pay for billboards in schools
[11:36]  Lydia Milner: is there a generic university press?
[11:36]  Garvie Garzo: i take a TON ofclasses, especiuially in the begiinning
[11:36]  Lydia Milner: or webpage that goes to many unis?
[11:36]  You: The Tech has done a good deal of PR in RL, but not in SL
[11:36]  Garvie Garzo: and i often checked out places on the ads..
[11:37]  You: Bjorlyn has offered to help us in SL
[11:37]  Garvie Garzo: becaiuse i really didn't know aboutsearch orhow to get around
[11:37]  You: she does Science Firday
[11:37]  Garvie Garzo: butth ads are all for unrelated crap like body piercings..
[11:37]  Lydia Milner: thats good
[11:37]  Lydia Milner: i beleive there are SL specific PR firms
[11:37]  Garvie Garzo: whereas someone learning to make things might be very interested to know someone willing to have things made
[11:38]  Lydia Milner: how about SL uni's, ask them if you can place a billboard there
[11:38]  Garvie Garzo: yes, exact;y
[11:38]  You: good idea
[11:38]  Lydia Milner: and other creative places like book island
[11:38]  Lydia Milner: I kknow onel fo theoweners there
[11:38]  Garvie Garzo: tui hasthe most building classes
[11:38]  Garvie Garzo: sl u is good too
[11:38]  You: tui?
[11:38]  Garvie Garzo: oooh
[11:39]  Garvie Garzo: i've never even heardof book island
[11:39]  Garvie Garzo: it's technical user interface
[11:39]  Garvie Garzo: there are a dozen or so building classes everyday
[11:39]  You: k
[11:40]  Lydia Milner: if you can put otgether a plan for sLa nd RL mktg quickly, or even just SL, the summit on 4th may boost and build on thiat
[11:40]  You: Great, thanks for all the terrific tips. Lot's to do and think about
[11:40]  Lydia Milner: is there any press coverage of the summit arranged in RL?
[11:40]  Lydia Milner: and could get SL press to cover the transmit in here on 4th?
[11:40]  You: Oh yes
[11:41]  Lydia Milner: Arent you glad you asked!
[11:41]  Lydia Milner: or did you?????? :)
[11:41]  You: indeed
[11:41]  Garvie Garzo: ok
[11:41]  Garvie Garzo: i have tried sl press.. so farnothing
[11:41]  Lydia Milner: who do you have covering hte summit in RL?
[11:41]  You: you guys are fantastic
[11:41]  Garvie Garzo: he didn't
[11:41]  Lydia Milner: Aw :)
[11:41]  Draxtor Despres is Offline
[11:41]  Lydia Milner: ha ha
[11:41]  Garvie Garzo: i suggested
[11:41]  Lydia Milner: I know
[11:42]  Lydia Milner: Stephe do you have any press coverage from UK on 4th in RL?
[11:42]  Garvie Garzo: you should bring some.. sort of an entourage
[11:42]  You: not sure - we have a mtg this PM with Ogilvy PR
[11:43]  Lydia Milner: ok, woudl you be able to let m know if that is ok?
[11:43]  Garvie Garzo: i told the editor ofthe herald aboutthe summit, who is a philosopher in RL... thinking he might come
[11:43]  Garvie Garzo: but he doesn't KNOW me, and i work in a difeerent field, and so i think he likely just ignored the note :(
[11:43]  Garvie Garzo: i could try email
[11:43]  Lydia Milner: lol
[11:44]  Lydia Milner: email ould work
[11:44]  Lydia Milner: could
[11:44]  You: sure, I'll send you the PR contacts list
[11:44]  Lydia Milner: many thanks :)
[11:44]  Garvie Garzo: ogilvy.. that's gooooood
[11:44]  Garvie Garzo: actually maybe the pr work should fall to ucantu?
[11:45]  You: ?
[11:45]  Garvie Garzo: well...
[11:45]  Garvie Garzo: maybe we really want to TARGET a specific group for a specific goal
[11:45]  Lydia Milner: i tihnk you need a lean systems type of Pr appraoch, RL and SL in synce, otherwise can get unweidy
[11:45]  Garvie Garzo: let the tech just be the platform of host.. notthe product pushed
[11:46]  Garvie Garzo: right now we want beginner orexpereinced designers
[11:46]  Lydia Milner: but then how do you capatailsie on the tech brand if not?
[11:46]  Garvie Garzo: people interested in trying something new
[11:46]  Lydia Milner: the tech brand is the biggest part of this so far
[11:46]  Garvie Garzo: museum anything is territiary information
[11:46]  Lydia Milner: and sets it apart from other things in SL\as you said earlier, open xourse concept etc
[11:47]  You: After UcanTu there will be more AFM, then biotech, then winemaking, then ...
[11:47]  Garvie Garzo: ok, brand is a good point
[11:47]  Lydia Milner: ooooh oooh go back to WINEMAKING aaaahhhh.......
[11:47]  Lydia Milner: is there an RL workshop for that one?
[11:47]  Lydia Milner: a nice californian pinot nior?
[11:47]  You: definitely!
[11:47]  Lydia Milner: please pelase please
[11:47]  Lydia Milner: :)
[11:48]  Garvie Garzo: tech is looking for sl designers.. tech is... coming first might do it
[11:48]  Ulysse Alexandre: there were one in SL in any case
[11:48]  Lydia Milner: yes, and your logo is really good, simple striking etc all those good logo things
[11:48]  Lydia Milner: vibrant color easily identifiable
[11:48]  Garvie Garzo: mmm pinot noir
[11:48]  Lydia Milner: gosh i miss advertising sometimes...
[11:48]  Garvie Garzo: yup, color's good too
[11:48]  Lydia Milner: mmmmmm pinot noi color??? :)
[11:48]  Garvie Garzo: layout ofthe building is a boitch tho
[11:48]  Lydia Milner: joking
[11:49]  Garvie Garzo: no, tecxh color lol
[11:49]  Lydia Milner: lol
[11:49]  Lydia Milner: i can feel a flip chart moment ocming on :)
[11:49]  Garvie Garzo: lol
[11:49]  Lydia Milner: Stephe I;llplay with some ideas and emjail you,
[11:49]  Lydia Milner: gotta go do RL stuff
[11:49]  You: great!
[11:49]  Garvie Garzo: we'll have LOTS to talk about when we meet..
[11:49]  Garvie Garzo: NEXT WEEK.. i can't believe it
[11:50]  Lydia Milner: pleas elet me know the pr contacts list I have been thimking of an idea about that but need to check my time i've got
[11:50]  You: when shall we three meet agian, in thunder lightning or in rain.
[11:50]  Lydia Milner: meeet.... pino noir..... hmmm....
[11:50]  Garvie Garzo: lol
[11:50]  Garvie Garzo: wine, let's meet in wine
[11:50]  Lydia Milner: see, fi they had apool they might have been GOOD witches :)
[11:50]  Garvie Garzo: great minds
[11:50]  Lydia Milner: good idea!
[11:51]  Ulysse Alexandre: Californian pinot noir is famous
[11:51]  Lydia Milner: I might come over and see you sTephe when I land :)
[11:51]  Ulysse Alexandre: even in Europe
[11:51]  Lydia Milner: yes, and it is gorgeous :)
[11:51]  Lydia Milner: I am in England
[11:51]  Ulysse Alexandre: I know:)
[11:52]  Lydia Milner: :)
[11:52]  You: England is green and pleasant. But not so sunny
[11:52]  Lydia Milner: no
[11:52]  Lydia Milner: yet the Swiss have the best cheese
[11:52]  Lydia Milner: we always buy Swiss cheese
[11:52]  Lydia Milner: and greek olives
[11:52]  Ulysse Alexandre: no wineyard in England
[11:52]  Lydia Milner: and californian wine :)
[11:52]  Lydia Milner: how did I get bakc to that??
[11:52]  Garvie Garzo: you guys have the best bacon..
[11:52]  Garvie Garzo: and best beer
[11:52]  Lydia Milner: lol
[11:53]  Lydia Milner: and the best cholestoerol!
[11:53]  Garvie Garzo: maybe
[11:53]  Ulysse Alexandre: lol
[11:53]  Garvie Garzo: orfrance
[11:53]  You: mdr
[11:53]  Lydia Milner: no the french are rather healthy
[11:53]  You: md - bacon
[11:53]  Lydia Milner: I think the brits are the unhealthiest in europe
[11:53]  Garvie Garzo: yes, they are
[11:53]  Garvie Garzo: right behind us
[11:53]  Garvie Garzo: canada is third i think
[11:53]  Lydia Milner: are you?
[11:53]  Lydia Milner: ah ok I didnt knwo that
[11:54]  Garvie Garzo: coincidentally money spent on healthcare is exactly inverse per capita, but all thos ethree spend the most
[11:54]  Garvie Garzo: funny funny world
[11:54]  You: us is unhealthy too, I 'm afraid
[11:54]  You: too much McDonalds
[11:54]  Lydia Milner: well I though usa had the mix of some of the helathiest and some of the unhealthieset
[11:54]  Garvie Garzo: yes, it's number 1
[11:54]  Lydia Milner: eeew
[11:54]  You: for both
[11:54]  Lydia Milner: yes
[11:58]  You: so long Lydia
[11:58]  Garvie Garzo: you know in non type, i am stunningly articulate
[11:58]  You: lol
[11:58]  You: so long Ulysse
[11:59]  You: so long Garvie
[11:59]  Ulysse Alexandre: yes, bye for now
[11:59]  Garvie Garzo: bye, good luck with roma
[11:59]  Garvie Garzo: it has a good few years.. then poof
[11:59]  Garvie Garzo: bye stephe
[11:59]  Ulysse Alexandre: thx, see you nexz week
[11:59]  Garvie Garzo: cool
[11:59]  Garvie Garzo: time to go shopping for tights ;lol
[11:59]  Garvie Garzo: mdr
[11:59]  Ulysse Alexandre: lol
[12:00]  Ulysse Alexandre: bye