[10:02]  Dancers Yao: hi shakini - Thank you - I still haven't heard back from them
[10:02]  Lydia Milner: Hi Stephe :)
[10:02]  You: hi, dancers
[10:02]  Dancers Yao: hi stephe
[10:02]  You: hoiw are you this AM?
[10:03]  You: hi, Lydia
[10:03]  Dancers Yao: Shakini, what is the next step to have permission to move ahead?
[10:03]  Shakini Parnass: in terms of video footage?
[10:04]  Shakini Parnass: i'm trying to get footage that we would be able to use to create a "mashup"
[10:04]  You: hi, Alisa
[10:04]  Alisa Cleanslate: Hi Stephe and everyone.
[10:04]  Shakini Parnass: she said that she has to speak to their partners and get their permission to use anything for purposes other than the creation of the videos they've already made
[10:04]  Shakini Parnass: hi alisa
[10:04]  Shakini Parnass: i think you're okay using anything thats already posted on their site
[10:05]  You: come join us, we're jst starting
[10:05]  Lydia Milner: Hi Alisa :)
[10:05]  Shakini Parnass: if there is a specific video that you want to use, i can ask this woman matisse about it
[10:05]  Alisa Cleanslate: Hi Lydia, nice to see you.
[10:05]  Alisa Cleanslate accepted your inventory offer.
[10:05]  Alisa Cleanslate accepted your inventory offer.
[10:06]  Dancers Yao: Thank you - I was just trying to get a video that gave an overall picture of what they do
[10:06]  Lydia Milner: you too :) I had ot run off last week after the meeting started
[10:06]  Shakini Parnass: how was the summit for you?
[10:07]  Lydia Milner: sorry are you talking to me Shakini?
[10:07]  Shakini Parnass: si
[10:07]  You cannot create objects here.  The owner of this land does not allow it.  Use the land tool to see land ownership.
[10:07]  Lydia Milner: :) yes it was great, i really enjoyed it, had the most fantastic time :)
[10:08]  Lydia Milner: and how was Italy or are you still there?
[10:08]  Shakini Parnass: i'm back -- it was bellisima!
[10:08]  Lydia Milner: lol good!
[10:08]  Shakini Parnass: good pizza too
[10:08]  Alisa Cleanslate: I thought the Summit was fantastic, learned a lot.
[10:08]  Shakini Parnass: i'm sorry i missed it
[10:09]  Alisa Cleanslate: and enjoyed meeting some of you in rl.
[10:09]  Shakini Parnass: and also sorry that i didn't get to meet all of you in person...
[10:09]  Shakini Parnass: but here we are!
[10:09]  Lydia Milner: :) there is a video of the presentations
[10:09]  Shakini Parnass: stephe just gave me the link yesterday, i'm looking forward to seeing it
[10:10]  Shakini Parnass: looks like stephe is reaching for the stars...
[10:10]  Lydia Milner: lol
[10:10]  Lydia Milner: I heard thats where he keeps the chocolate :)
[10:10]  Shakini Parnass: so thats his secret!
[10:11]  Lydia Milner: btw, I was very popular when i brough backk some san fran chocolates, cant remember what they were called but very nice
[10:11]  Shakini Parnass: ghiradelli?
[10:11]  Shakini Parnass: there's actually a lot of chocolate in this town, quite dangerous
[10:11]  Lydia Milner: hmm, i dont think so, dees, stees?
[10:12]  Lorenza Rokocoko: Hi everyone!
[10:12]  Lydia Milner: Hi Lorenza :)
[10:12]  Shakini Parnass: hello lorenza
[10:12]  Dancers Yao: hi lorenza
[10:12]  You: hi, Lorenza, welcome back!
[10:12]  Lorenza Rokocoko: Missed you all!
[10:12]  Alisa Cleanslate: See's yum so good
[10:12]  Lydia Milner: ah was that it, sees.
[10:13]  Lydia Milner: these look interesting
[10:13]  Shakini Parnass: makes you "see" better
[10:13]  Lydia Milner: haha
[10:13]  Lydia Milner: see, chocolate IS good for you :)
[10:13]  Shakini Parnass: stephe put up a few of the sketches from our set designer
[10:13]  Lydia Milner: is the green one the centre?
[10:13]  Shakini Parnass: the middle one is a rough sketch of the "farmer's market over the bridge walkway"
[10:13]  You: I put up some sketches about where the UcanTu exhibit will be in the RL Tech and what it might look like
[10:14]  Shakini Parnass: the green one on the right is the "call to action tree"
[10:14]  Shakini Parnass: that will be in the center of the main gallery space
[10:14]  You: I also posted them in Parkside
[10:14]  Shakini Parnass: the spheres hanging from it are globes that will have information about the impact of the technology or addressing the specific issue on a global scale
[10:15]  Shakini Parnass: check out worldprocessor.org to get an idea as to how this info will be mapped
[10:15]  Lydia Milner: oh yes i rememer those globes, they were nice
[10:15]  Shakini Parnass: we're going to be working with the artist who made those, ingo gunther
[10:16]  Shakini Parnass: does anyone have any ideas they want to bounce around for their exhibits?
[10:16]  Lydia Milner: i will confess to not having done much recently
[10:16]  Lydia Milner: some time on the pplane and in teh hotel lol
[10:17]  Lydia Milner: i need some qualtiy time with my flip chart
[10:17]  Lydia Milner: then i can get moving
[10:17]  You: hi, Betty, come join us
[10:17]  Shakini Parnass: thats okay, you have a lot of potential exhibits in the works if there is anything you want to talk about to get the inspiration going
[10:17]  Dancers Yao: When is the time to ask for exhibit space?
[10:17]  Lorenza Rokocoko: but maybe you need to solve something that we can help and you can bust your talent
[10:17]  You: right now ;-)
[10:18]  Lydia Milner: lol
[10:18]  Lydia Milner: i have started building kickstart and know where i cam going with that
[10:18]  Dancers Yao: Whom do we ask?
[10:18]  Shakini Parnass: we just got another kickstart pump this week
[10:18]  Lydia Milner: adpatuive eyecare i'm not sure how to do all of it in sl, as avs dont have hands :) so more thinknig on that
[10:18]  Lydia Milner: oh good, is hte label torn?
[10:18]  You: we can make movies of it working!
[10:19]  Lydia Milner: lovely!
[10:19]  You: no brand new
[10:19]  Shakini Parnass: stephe is your man for the exhibit space dancers
[10:19]  You: I'll send you some shots
[10:19]  Lydia Milner: great, is it poss to get a shot of it??
[10:19]  Lydia Milner: thanks lol
[10:19]  Shakini Parnass: its all folded up at the moment
[10:19]  Lydia Milner: oh ok, no rush :)
[10:19]  You: Dancers, if you like we can go over to parkside after thismeeting and set up a boot for you
[10:20]  Lydia Milner: i was looking at light up the world web pge earlier,
[10:20]  Dancers Yao: yes! thanks
[10:20]  Shakini Parnass: once the shop guys get their hands on it, it probably won't be so shiny and new looking!
[10:20]  Lydia Milner: i can tdecide whether to move forward all together like a line of soldiers, or focus on one first
[10:20]  Lydia Milner: i guess one first is more sensible
[10:20]  Lydia Milner: but maybe nots o much fun hmmm
[10:21]  Shakini Parnass: sensible or fun...hard decision
[10:21]  Lydia Milner: lol
[10:21]  Lydia Milner: hmm, stay up to midnight saying hmm, i shouldve done one at a time lol
[10:21]  Lydia Milner: or have fun hmm
[10:21]  Shakini Parnass: in light of how many soldiers you have, you might want to narrow it down a little
[10:22]  Shakini Parnass: or you'll end up witha troop reduction
[10:22]  You: stephe imagines a whole wavefront of exhibits moving forward simultaneously
[10:22]  Shakini Parnass: that'd be cool
[10:22]  Lydia Milner: lol, yes i coudl put them all in a line in the hall lol
[10:23]  You: hi, Betty
[10:23]  You: come join us
[10:23]  Shakini Parnass: actually lydia, since we have the kickstart and are going to start prototyping the pump side and kidproofing it
[10:23]  Shakini Parnass: it would be greaqt to have some parallel development going on here in sl
[10:23]  Betty Orfein: hi stephe. This is Oze, controlling Betty. She is our av for the Connecting Point echibit
[10:23]  Lydia Milner: ah, wonderful idea
[10:23]  Lydia Milner: i have put what i have built so far in the hall, last night,
[10:23]  Betty Orfein: I am help our technicians to troubleshoot something only
[10:24]  Betty Orfein declined your inventory offer.
[10:24]  Lydia Milner: except for the pump as it is just a few parts and looks rather odd
[10:24]  Lydia Milner: haha
[10:24]  Shakini Parnass: do you need the photos to make it make more sense?
[10:24]  Betty Orfein: have fun with this meeting. I need to get back to my troubleshooting
[10:24]  You: ok, Oze/Betty you appear in many forms. A shape shifter
[10:24]  Lydia Milner: lol
[10:24]  Shakini Parnass: bye betty - thanks for coming by
[10:24]  Betty Orfein: see you Stephe
[10:25]  You: so long
[10:25]  Betty Orfein: this is how shakini look like. Hi shakini.
[10:25]  Betty Orfein: got to go. have fun
[10:25]  Lydia Milner: let me take a look. stephe sent me some pics what seems like AGES ago and i have shamefully done nothing with them
[10:25]  Shakini Parnass: hey dancers, the one other thing that matisse from witness told me is that they have a few avatars floating around in SL
[10:26]  Lydia Milner: my plan of action is to get little miss of to bed, stick the 6 flichart sheets around the room
[10:26]  Lydia Milner: map out the sets
[10:26]  Shakini Parnass: she mentioned that they don't have an island or anything, these are just free agents
[10:26]  Lydia Milner: then lists the items /stages/ to do's on the wiki
[10:26]  You: gnight, Amelia
[10:26]  Shakini Parnass: that sounds like a good strategy lydia
[10:27]  Shakini Parnass: i think once you have the items and to do's posted then some of the other folks who have been lurking around iwll have something to latch onto
[10:27]  Lydia Milner: and then maybe move forward in some wierd pattern of pics
[10:27]  Lydia Milner: then anims
[10:27]  Lydia Milner: tehn scripts
[10:27]  Lydia Milner: or whatever
[10:27]  Shakini Parnass: there were a lot of scripters and modelers here last week
[10:27]  Dancers Yao: /one of the areas I wanted to ask for help is with machinima - and Yes - I was waiting to contact the SL group until I heard the international group - hadn't been sure if they were related before - thanks - will contact them today
[10:27]  Lydia Milner: yes i know, al those hands and i had to go coz we were just back from USA and Amelia had two year old jetlag lol
[10:27]  Lydia Milner: messy :)
[10:28]  Shakini Parnass: two year old jetlag is probably better than mine was!
[10:28]  Alisa Cleanslate: I can do machinima
[10:28]  Lydia Milner: thats good
[10:29]  You: remember that, if you need help with something like machinima or building, add a Help Wanted to your project on the Website
[10:29]  Lydia Milner: lol stephe amelias still eating chocolate right now
[10:29]  Dancers Yao: great! May I email you about the project? It's called "Creating a Universal Language"
[10:29]  You: mmm
[10:29]  Shakini Parnass: is mmm the universal language for chocolate?
[10:29]  Alisa Cleanslate: Yes
[10:30]  Lydia Milner: lol
[10:30]  Dancers Yao: high priority for humans
[10:30]  You: yes lol
[10:30]  Shakini Parnass: maybe we need to turn the water here into liquid chocolate too...
[10:30]  Lydia Milner: i thought your project escription was really interesting dancers, i read it earlier
[10:31]  Lydia Milner: hmmm, good idea
[10:31]  You: Willy Wonka @ The Tech
[10:31]  Lydia Milner: haha
[10:31]  Dancers Yao: thanks
[10:32]  Shakini Parnass: dancers -- was there anything else you wanted to know from stephe or myself? i'm not sure what you meant by needing permission to move ahead
[10:33]  Lydia Milner: shakini, i think i willl try to get to that same flipchart/design stage with all projects and then decide whether to do the soldiers or one at a time
[10:33]  Shakini Parnass: sounds good
[10:33]  Lydia Milner: obviuosly i'm hankering after the soldiers but i may have ato admit its a dumb idea :)
[10:34]  Dancers Yao: You clarified the permission with witness.org - sounds like it will be ok for what I need now - and can continue to include their online overview video
[10:34]  Shakini Parnass: they basically don't have the time or infrastructure in place to invest in more of a presence in SL, but they are interested in that
[10:35]  Lydia Milner: ah good point, is it ok for me to contact all the orgs direct, they know about this do they? or is there anyone is particular to ask for at each?
[10:35]  Shakini Parnass: i think the fact that you are already working toward including Elder Voices in the Hub gives you street cred so to speak
[10:35]  Lydia Milner: i was thinking about ersources that are on tehir webpages but not on the techs, getting perm to use those
[10:35]  Lydia Milner: decidng which is [art of the flipchart process :)
[10:36]  Shakini Parnass: getting permission to use links/videos/photos?
[10:36]  Lydia Milner: yes
[10:36]  Shakini Parnass: which sites
[10:37]  Dancers Yao: Yes - the work I'm doing now with guardianship abuse deals with human rights - and those are the stories that will be included on the hub - I will also the SL witness group to join the project
[10:37]  Lorenza Rokocoko: the person in charge of the Tech Awards in RL is contacting all the Laureates
[10:37]  Lydia Milner: so far, i think there was avid on kickstart,
[10:37]  Lydia Milner: some pics on light up
[10:38]  Lydia Milner: i need to check the rest
[10:38]  Lydia Milner: cant remember
[10:38]  Shakini Parnass: what do you mean by avid on kickstart?
[10:38]  Lydia Milner: sorry, typing one hamded, not that it makres much diffce
[10:38]  Lydia Milner: a video
[10:38]  Lydia Milner: i meant
[10:38]  Shakini Parnass: got it, sorry
[10:38]  Lydia Milner: lol
[10:39]  Lydia Milner: its hard to tell sometimes :)
[10:39]  Shakini Parnass: i have spoken to martin -- i think he's totally fine with whats happening here
[10:39]  You: yes, there is a video for each of the Tech Arard laureates
[10:39]  Lydia Milner: martin?
[10:40]  Shakini Parnass: my feeling is that since what we are doing is entirely contained in sl and all of their assets are posted on their website, there is an implied permission to use if it is to promote their project in a positive way
[10:40]  Lydia Milner: that souns good,
[10:40]  Shakini Parnass: i would say that the intention of the tech virtual is positive and in support of what the laureates stand for
[10:40]  Lydia Milner: then ikts just ametter of getting hold of them
[10:40]  Lydia Milner: yes
[10:40]  Lydia Milner: i did phn some b4 goig to usa but got ans machs at the best
[10:41]  Shakini Parnass: i would say go ahead and use wgatever you need to do your mockups
[10:41]  You: the videos were put together by the Tech, not the laureates, so there is no pb in any case
[10:41]  Lydia Milner: oh good
[10:41]  Lydia Milner: i'll get a list together then
[10:41]  Shakini Parnass: i haven't actually put light up the world on the main list for now, they're kind of in a backup position
[10:42]  Lydia Milner: do i send thw list to you guys or direct to them?
[10:42]  Shakini Parnass: since we already have LED lights as part of the green by design exhibit here
[10:42]  Lydia Milner: ? it was on the list?
[10:42]  Shakini Parnass: yes, its on the list
[10:42]  Shakini Parnass: but we've been honing things down ont he floor plan
[10:42]  Shakini Parnass: it may still go in,
[10:42]  Lydia Milner: ah ok in what way?
[10:43]  Shakini Parnass: part of this process right now is to physically obtain assets to start prototyping in rl as well
[10:43]  Shakini Parnass: as some projects/people are or are not available, we are having to shift things around and stay flexible
[10:44]  Shakini Parnass: for example, we haven't been able to get through to remina/cedeh for over a month and just heard from them
[10:44]  Shakini Parnass: they don't have any technology at all, so we're not sure how to integrate them into the overall plan...
[10:44]  Shakini Parnass: jaipur foot took over a month to contact as well
[10:44]  SC Ireland is Online
[10:45]  Lydia Milner: so if i want some asset off one oftheir webpages doesthat meanit may not be avilable, due to time etc?
[10:45]  Lydia Milner: yes, i gues they areoff doing what they do
[10:45]  Shakini Parnass: these folks are all really busy - many are travelling out of the country, some don't have email access at all
[10:46]  Shakini Parnass: one laureate called at 10 pm and left a message asking for my email number saying they couldn't get through
[10:46]  Lydia Milner: yes putting their resrouces where they areneeded
[10:46]  Shakini Parnass: for prototyping, i would just go ahead and use whatever assets are available on their website and the tech website
[10:47]  Lydia Milner: someone should set up a charity that provides a central contact point for various charities :)
[10:47]  Lydia Milner: ? hw do i get things off their website?
[10:47]  Lorenza Rokocoko: some websites are informative but they don't update the info, be patient
[10:47]  Shakini Parnass: if there is something more specific you need, please let me know since i am in touch with most of these folks
[10:47]  Shakini Parnass: the central charity aggregator is kiva...
[10:47]  You: yes, and btw, the links on thetechvirtual.org are more reliable that the original Tech Awards site, which are often out of date
[10:48]  Shakini Parnass: i mean if there is a video or photo, you can download them using quicktime pro or drag and drop to your desktop
[10:48]  You: hi, SC
[10:48]  SC Ireland: better late? :)
[10:48]  You: welcome
[10:48]  Shakini Parnass: hi SC
[10:48]  Lydia Milner: so thts ok then,thanks
[10:48]  Lydia Milner: Hi sc :)
[10:48]  Dancers Yao: Hi SC
[10:49]  SC Ireland: how are you guys doing?
[10:49]  Lorenza Rokocoko: Hi SC
[10:49]  You: we were just talking about how to get resources for the UcanTu projecrts
[10:49]  SC Ireland: resources as in $?
[10:49]  Lorenza Rokocoko: I got to go, see you next week. Stephe and Shakini, see you tomorrow in RL
[10:49]  Shakini Parnass: ciao lorenza!
[10:49]  Lydia Milner: Bye Lorenza :)
[10:49]  You: as in photos, videos, etc.
[10:50]  Shakini Parnass: resources such as photos, videos, etc
[10:50]  SC Ireland: hehe... cool...
[10:50]  Shakini Parnass: whatever people need to do prototyping for the exhibits
[10:51]  Shakini Parnass: we're in the process of having several projects that are in the incubation stage and just about to bust out
[10:51]  Shakini Parnass: soldiers on the march
[10:51]  SC Ireland: good good!
[10:51]  Lydia Milner: lol
[10:52]  Shakini Parnass: dancers -- can you hook up with alisa to work out your needs for machinima?
[10:52]  SC Ireland: which projects are people working on?
[10:52]  Lydia Milner: i'mworking on a lot of sheets of flipchart paper and a large ball of blue tac right now lol
[10:52]  Dancers Yao: Yes - I will IM/email her and send her info -
[10:53]  SC Ireland: hehe cool!
[10:53]  Lydia Milner: not got much fuether sadly
[10:53]  You: take a look at http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/ucantu-projects/
[10:53]  Shakini Parnass: all the projects are posted at thetechvirtual.org, but dancers is working on a project related to witness.org and lydia has a slew of projects that are in the works
[10:53]  You: Hi, eschala, nice boots!
[10:53]  SC Ireland: I saw the projects on the site, but i wasnt sure which ones were chosen....
[10:53]  Eshala Tabacznyk: Hi Stephe ty lol
[10:53]  Shakini Parnass: hi eshala
[10:54]  Eshala Tabacznyk: Hi Shakini
[10:54]  Lydia Milner: Hi Eshala
[10:54]  Shakini Parnass: there is a section where people have proposed their own projects under "projects"
[10:54]  Eshala Tabacznyk: Hi Lydia
[10:54]  SC Ireland: ahhh yes
[10:54]  Shakini Parnass: i was just in holland eshala - people were going nuts after beating italy and france!
[10:55]  Dancers Yao: Alisa - I'm going to meet with Stephe to set up a space - May I get your email at the end of the meeting also?
[10:55]  Alisa Cleanslate: sure, check your IM
[10:56]  Shakini Parnass: i have a RL meeting in 5 minutes that i need to print out some dox for so i am going to sign off -- please let me know if you need anything!
[10:56]  Lydia Milner: Stephe, did you get much out of the creative commons session at the summit, I ahve spent hours reading photo terms and conds on webpages, ugh
[10:56]  Shakini Parnass: ciao everyone -- thanks for coming and i'll see you again next week
[10:56]  SC Ireland: have fun shakini
[10:56]  Lydia Milner: thanks Shinki, take care :)
[10:56]  Lydia Milner: sorry, shakini :)
[10:56]  Shakini Parnass is Offline
[10:56]  Dancers Yao: Thany you Shakini
[10:56]  Alisa Cleanslate: thanks all
[10:56]  You: Does anybody mind if we post the transcript of this meeting?
[10:57]  Lydia Milner: no thats fine with me
[10:57]  Alisa Cleanslate: fine
[10:57]  Dancers Yao: Thank you Alisa - got the IM
[10:57]  Alisa Cleanslate: ok, later
[10:57]  SC Ireland: i didnt say anything useful... so ... hehe :)
[10:57]  You: Transcripts are on http://thetechvirtual.org/projects/meeting-transcripts/
[10:58]  Lydia Milner: hehe